[LI_Goalie]

Originally Posted by whiteblue

The Mustang may accelerate a tad faster but only until the next turn, where it will start to jump, spin out and then tip over

Why do you think that? The 5.0 mustang is faster around a racetrack than a 335i. In fact it's about on par with a M3...

Why can't people on this site just accept the fact that the Mustang is a better, cheaper sportscar than a 335i? A 335i is a better mix of luxury and sportiness, but you pay out of your ass for it.

[TheOmen]

Originally Posted by e90Cam

Ouch, all that money wasted and not on mods

Atleast your car didn't get seized, one of my co-workers Toyota Prius got impounded because she was doing 80 in a 40

didn't know they went that fast

[e90Cam]

Originally Posted by TheOmen

didn't know they went that fast

80km/h which is like 49mph.

Canadians..

[Morpheus]

I raced a new 5.0 at the track. He ran a 13.1 to my 12.79. He said his car had an exhaust and it was an automatic. I am cobb stage 2.

[Johnny Boost]

Originally Posted by LI_Goalie

Why do you think that? The 5.0 mustang is faster around a racetrack than a 335i. In fact it's about on par with a M3...

Why can't people on this site just accept the fact that the Mustang is a better, cheaper sportscar than a 335i? A 335i is a better mix of luxury and sportiness, but you pay out of your ass for it.

You just answered your own question with this statement. The 335i has luxury, mustang does not. You're comparing apples to oranges here. Of course the prices are different because it's two different cars built for two different purposes.

[rick100]

Originally Posted by Johnny Boost

You just answered your own question with this statement. The 335i has luxury, mustang does not. You're comparing apples to oranges here. Of course the prices are different because it's two different cars built for two different purposes.

Both cars were mainly build for speed and power. Otherwise you may as well just get a 328 which is something in the middle.


Where are you going to used 330 HP or 430 HP in the street???. In the track a mustang gt is a better option . Stock with a few bolts on it will still beat a tune 335. Put a supercharger and you are already competing against supercars.

Brand new 335 is about 60 k , a brand new mustang gt is about 35k . Stock vs stock , mustang is faster. Put 10k under the hood ( total cost 45k ) and you running laps around a tuned 335 . Plus it will probably be more reliable

As a matter of fact you can get a 2014 mustang shelby cobra for 65 k . 650HP stock .

[Morpheus]

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[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by Johnny Boost

You just answered your own question with this statement. The 335i has luxury, mustang does not. You're comparing apples to oranges here. Of course the prices are different because it's two different cars built for two different purposes.

This whole thread started because some knucklehead raced a "4.1L" Mustang and apparently beat him handily . I've never seen a thread on here where stock 335i races a current year stock Mustang GT, gets beat, but then the Poster says, "well my car has more luxury". What does luxury have to do with street racing? We're comparing apples to apples: who's car is faster and for what price. When a BMW loses to a Ford, the Luxury card always gets pulled. LOL.

[TheOmen]

Originally Posted by e90Cam

80km/h which is like 49mph.

Canadians..

oh haha thanks for the clarification

[beetle6986]

Originally Posted by Eat.Sleep.Race

5.0 will walk a stock 335 lol.

+1. A tune only 335 would be about equal with a stock 5.0.

[galahad05]

Originally Posted by Morpheus

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That is odd. Pulling out the trusty old ET/trap speed to horsepower calculator, like so:
http://www.competitiondiesel.com/Phil/bg/

And I'm getting something like 285 hp at the flywheel for your opponent?!? This is from that horrible trap speed....did his motor grenade 3/4 down the track?

[Infamy]

Big block lol. That was funny.

[GMe90]

Originally Posted by LI_Goalie

Why do you think that? The 5.0 mustang is faster around a racetrack than a 335i. In fact it's about on par with a M3...

Why can't people on this site just accept the fact that the Mustang is a better, cheaper sportscar than a 335i? A 335i is a better mix of luxury and sportiness, but you pay out of your ass for it.

Wait until the 2015 model comes out. The interior looks much better and it will have. IRS. Plus the car looks awesome. It will be very hard to pay $15k or more for a 335i when the 2015 Mustang GT will destroy it in performance. Plus, V8s have so much soul.

[jt335i]

I guess I’m one of those few who has both a 4.6L Mustang GT (2005) 5MT and a 335i (2010) MT/AT.
Love driving them both. Now if only I could duplicate myself, I’d put both cars up against each other off the line.
Can definitely feel the umph of my Stang when I hit the gas and shift through the gears. It will give my 335 a good run, stock for stock, but I can tell my 335 will have the edge in the end.
I have added a CAI to my Stang and Ford Racing axle-back mufflers, but those would make minimal difference. Now I do have a Diablosport Predator tuner for my Stang, but I have not used it in a while because it requires me to use 93 octane unleaded. So I’ve been sticking with running 87 octane non-ethanol.
I’m sure if I tuned my Pony, it could run with my 335 and have the edge.

[ragingclue]

Originally Posted by whiteblue

The Mustang may accelerate a tad faster but only until the next turn, where it will start to jump, spin out and then tip over

This one must have tipped over too:

...and that's against the 335's bigger brother.

Originally Posted by tomchang75

My mistake. I would say his car was a 2010-11 4.7l v8. Still, big block should be doing mid 13s like our car. Another funny thing is my car is auto and I didn't even do any revving or launch from neutral gear. I just. Step on gas when the light turn green and change gear at 7100 rpm before powerband goes down.

What do u think it would take to beat the mustang 5.0, Camero ss and dodge challenger srt ?

There is no 4.7. A GT from 2011+ would have a Coyote in it, which you definitely did not see. A GT from 2010 would look like the '11-'12 Coyotes but it's got the power delete under the hood (3V 4.6L). My guess is you ran into a slow stock 3V turd (apologies to 3V owners, but we know they're not that quick compared to the Coyotes). A 3V should be doing mid-13s I think, about the same as what the 3.7L V6s are doing these days. So if a 3V gives you a race, guess what? Might want to watch out for those Mustangs with the 3.7 badges, that's a run you don't want to be caught losing.

Stop using the term "big block" please, it is not applicable here and hasn't been relevant to any Mustang GT in decades.

To tell whether a '10-'12 Mustang GT is a 5.0 or 4.6, one way to tell is by looking at the fender badge. If it says "GT", you've found a slow one. If it says "5.0", then you've found a 5.0.

[beetle6986]

Originally Posted by Morpheus

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If that was a 5.0... He took his foot off the pedal before crossing the line. I think it was either a new V6 or an older 4.6. 102 mph trap would be really bad for a 5.0.

[ragingclue]

Originally Posted by beetle6986

If that was a 5.0... He took his foot off the pedal before crossing the line. I think it was either a new V6 or an older 4.6. 102 mph trap would be really bad for a 5.0.

It is but some people are really bad drivers. We have a guy here with a 3.7, exhaust and tune only, he runs 13.20.... He's embarrassed some guys with Coyotes who can't drive for squat.

102 is beyond terrible for a 5.0. I would have first assumed shifting issues but since it's an auto, I guess the dude is probably just a terrible driver.

[Morpheus]

Originally Posted by galahad05

That is odd. Pulling out the trusty old ET/trap speed to horsepower calculator, like so:
http://www.competitiondiesel.com/Phil/bg/

And I'm getting something like 285 hp at the flywheel for your opponent?!? This is from that horrible trap speed....did his motor grenade 3/4 down the track?

No, but it was 97 degrees that day. I don't know about that calculator you referenced but motor trend got a 1/4 mile time of 13.2 for a 2014 ford mustang gt convertible with a trap of 108 so it doesn't seem far off to me.

[Morpheus]

It was a brand new mustang gt convertible with an automatic and he said an exhaust. I'm not saying he didn't let off, but I didn't ask. All he said afterwards was "good race". Nice guy.

[galahad05]

The convertible is also 200 pounds heavier.....which helps explain the 13.2.
The trap speed on the convertible is much more like what I was expecting--pretty much all down to horsepower. These things should trap around 108 to 110 mph.

And your time was excellent by the way--great reaction time, and that motor is looking like around 400 hp.
I'm just saying it should have been a much closer race.

[Nhe261]

Lost on straight pull and beat him on the outside corner

[beetle6986]

Originally Posted by Morpheus

No, but it was 97 degrees that day. I don't know about that calculator you referenced but motor trend got a 1/4 mile time of 13.2 for a 2014 ford mustang gt convertible with a trap of 108 so it doesn't seem far off to me.

Quick search of motortrend and mustang gt resulted in a 12.7 @ 111mph. 102 is almost 10 mph difference. That like 100+ HP gap. I think the 6 cylinder models are trapping over 100 mph.

BTW, nice numbers for your Cobb. Do you have downpipes?