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      01-05-2010, 11:40 AM   #67
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The car to keep would be a 2013 M3!
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      01-05-2010, 11:47 AM   #68
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"Ultra sporty version" should have a proper gearbox, not an automatic.
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      01-05-2010, 11:56 AM   #69
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How do you know that there will really be a 335is? Maybe somebody just read my speculation thread: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=335969
But if it is true so then I was right. There might even be 335is E90 and E91.

What is interesting in all this:
Car------------------------------->0-100 km/h
Z4 sDrive35i (6MT)---------------->5.2 sec
Z4 sDrvie35i (7DCT)--------------->5.0 sec
Z4 sDrive35is (7DCT)-------------->4.8 sec
335i Coupe (6MT)----------------->5.5 sec
335i Coupe (7DCT)---------------->5.4 sec
so
335si Coupé (7DCT)--------------->5.2 sec to 5.0 sec
and
M3 Coupé (6MT)------------------>4.8 sec
M3 Coupe (7DCT)----------------->4.6 sec

To me it seems just to close. The M3 LCI will surely get an upgrade to 440 hp.
M3 Coupé LCI (6MT)-------------->4.7 sec
M3 Coupé LCI (7DCT)------------->4.5 sec
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      01-05-2010, 12:26 PM   #71
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The car to keep would be a 2013 M3!
No I the car to keep would be the 2017 LCI M3! See we can do this all day. Just buy the car when you want. No matter when you buy there will always be a better one out soon after.
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      01-05-2010, 12:29 PM   #72
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...rendering of possible LCI E92 (non-iS, non-M-Sport) ~Frost
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Yes I did have to join just for this. If you are truely into performance driving, you should want this (a better suspension that is)

If you just want to go fast in a line get a mustang or something.

Everyone wants an M package but forgets whats important in the letter M when it comes to BMW
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Wondering if the 3D surface work on hte tail light is just camo or production?

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so if these are the changes for 3 series in 2011. does that mean these changes or slightly different changes will occur to the 2011 or 2012 M3?

increased power to 440?
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so if these are the changes for 3 series in 2011. does that mean these changes or slightly different changes will occur to the 2011 or 2012 M3?

increased power to 440?

The 2011/2012 M3's will get the LED tails, but that's about it. No new headlights (as they would have to change the front bumper, etc...) No increased Hp, etc...

If history repeats itself take a look at the e46 M3's. When the LCI e46's came out the M3 was completely unaltered, other than the LED tails.
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[QUOTE=Levi;6465849]How do you know that there will really be a 335is? Maybe somebody just read my speculation thread: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=335969

No, I did not read your speculation thread (I do not speculate)- this is from hard sources and the iS will be a US only product.
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so if these are the changes for 3 series in 2011. does that mean these changes or slightly different changes will occur to the 2011 or 2012 M3?

increased power to 440?
the only thing that has been confirmed for MY 2011 / 2012 M3 on the e92 are the LED tails... that's the only confirmation we have... yet...
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In spite of the HPFP issues, sounds like the N54 is going to return.. question will the fuel pump problems be resolved or are we in for another round of misery? Like to know before looking at MY11 335i
it's already been confirmed that the N54 is here to stay, at least for this generation of e90/e92 etc etc... 2011 will have increased performance, along with upgrades in cooling system etc etc... it's not JUST a engine tune and led tails...

nobody is going to be able to predict if the HPFP is ever going to happen again, nobody can guarantee that kind of a thing...
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Read my post above- there is a reason and it was discussed over a year ago- gov't requirement.

Next- there are extensive changes made to the cooling, and additional hardware not present on the standard motor to make it "iS". Why would you think they just tweaked the ECU if on the 740, and the BMW Performance Kit they increased cooling and air flow?

Not sure why one would need a tune when the "iS" has overboost that will spin 1-3 on dry pavement oh and get the same MPG as a stock car.

Some of this tuning stuff makes me laugh, what is the point in having a tune if A) The car only goes straight and B) Most people will never even see a track with it- (street racing light to light is for kids that usually end up in jail or killed at some point). But that is a different topic so let's get back to the DCT- LCI and the iS

The iS is will be a direct competitor to the S4/5..
yeah he's right... government decided over a year ago that larger side mirrors are a requirement, along with why all bimmers have the chopped nose look that everyone complains about... slant nose days are pretty much gone... there is a reason we all have those hideous amber reflectors that everyone deletes... you think bmw just adds those to US / Canadian bound cars so we can spend more money on mods??

also, i'm gonna have to agree with mapezzul, the car has overboost... you guys hopefully will be happy with that at least for the short duration, stop worrying about piggyback until the damn car comes out... you do understand that overboost causes a very dramatic increase in TORQUE for all those hell bent on being faster from a dig or a roll?? expect to wear out your tires sooner people... torque's what makes you chirp your tires...
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How do you know that there will really be a 335is? Maybe somebody just read my speculation thread: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=335969

No, I did not read your speculation thread (I do not speculate)- this is from hard sources and the iS will be a US only product.
Will Canada see the iS? Thanks.
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Can you guys confirm that their will be NO new engine upgrades or tweaks for the 328i(E90/E92/E93) or no performance benefits for the 328i?
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Can you guys confirm that their will be NO new engine upgrades or tweaks for the 328i(E90/E92/E93) or no performance benefits for the 328i?
*sigh*

alright, one more time...

ONLY 335 will get engine upgrades / performance tweaks... PERIOD...
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And what about boost for just the 335i because I want a manual?!
*SIGH* again... okay, one more time...

MANUAL tranny cannot handle the "overboost"... there will be NO 6MT iS...
DCT AND AUTO are the ONLY options with the iS model... look at the current performance package through BMW, i don't know the exact numbers off the top of my head, but the 6MT 335 gets slightly less horse and torque with the same upgrade...
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      01-05-2010, 07:14 PM   #88
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*sigh*

alright, one more time...

ONLY 335 will get engine upgrades / performance tweaks... PERIOD...
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*SIGH* again... okay, one more time...

MANUAL tranny cannot handle the "overboost"... there will be NO 6MT iS...
DCT AND AUTO are the ONLY options with the iS model... look at the current performance package through BMW, i don't know the exact numbers off the top of my head, but the 6MT 335 gets slightly less horse and torque with the same upgrade...
The broken record goes around and around.... people just don't get it. BMW is not hiding anything here folks, what happened to the Z4 is happening tot the E92/93 this is not rocket science. And yes the info I have is as rock solid as it comes.... just wait the two weeks for the official confirmation and then add 5 days for the iS.

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