Help! with jb4

Mflip335 · 05-10-2013, 07:39 PM

I recently purchased a JB4 from a member. A buddy of mine was able to help me out. The car started just fine. However I wasnt able to pull up the menu. I clicked the minus and and the down arrow controls. Nothing happened. What could it be?

MasterWang · 05-10-2013, 08:12 PM

I purchased a used jb4 with broken pins my first time.
Didn't realize the pins were broken until I faced the same problem you did.

Installed, car started fine, but couldn't get to the menu.

This is what my pins looked like. Didn't see this because it was already attached to the jb4 housing.

Mflip335 · 05-10-2013, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by MasterWang

I purchased a used jb4 with broken pins my first time.
Didn't realize the pins were broken until I faced the same problem you did.

Installed, car started fine, but couldn't get to the menu.

This is what my pins looked like. Didn't see this because it was already attached to the jb4 housing.

Hm, I'm going to have to check if that was the reason as well. What did you end up doing?

MasterWang · 05-10-2013, 09:03 PM

I purchased through Paypal so I told the seller, shipped it back to the seller, and he sent me a full refund.

Mflip335 · 05-10-2013, 09:55 PM

Well, I guess this was the reason why.

Snaggletooth · 05-10-2013, 10:01 PM

two missing pins are normal, thats where the meth FSB goes.

Mflip335 · 05-10-2013, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Snaggletooth

two missing pins are normal, thats where the meth FSB goes.

Excuse me for not knowing, but am I missing something? Masterwangs picture showed all pins being there.

Darryl79 · 05-10-2013, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Mflip335

Excuse me for not knowing, but am I missing something? Masterwangs picture showed all pins being there.

No, what it looks like is that bottom pin is bent all to hell! That can't be normal

MasterWang · 05-10-2013, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Mflip335

Excuse me for not knowing, but am I missing something? Masterwangs picture showed all pins being there.

I forgot why some have those two pins and some don't, but the second jb4 I purchased didn't have those two pins and worked fine. My first one didn't work because one pin was smashed as you can see in the pic.

Deep_Blue · 05-11-2013, 12:24 AM

mine is missing those two pins as well, but works perfectly. I would go back into the ECU box and make sure that when you plugged the JB4 connectors into the stock connectors that used to run into the ECU that you didnt get one on backwards.

If you look at the sides of the connectors, there's a little open rectangle on one side. Make sure these are matched up or you have one on backwards and things get weird.

Snaggletooth · 05-12-2013, 11:23 PM

You guys, i promise you that those two empty pins are there for a reason, thats where you'd wire in the FSB for your methanol kit so that it integrates with the JB4. I believe that's also where the speed limiter delete would go (but i havent personally tried it). It could just be defective assuming all the pins are straight.

boostaholic786 · 05-13-2013, 04:34 AM

You might want to plug in your laptop and go to settings, if I'm not mistaken and make sure at the bottom of the page it says disable steering wheel controls so maybe the ex user deactivated his steering wheel controls and that's probably all it is

GAM · 05-13-2013, 05:31 AM

Send it to BMS and they will replace what needs to be done. Mine had an issue, I sent it overnight, terry received it at 10am the next day, changed whatever needed to be done, and he shipped it overnight back the same day at 6pm, I had it the next day.. If that's not an amazing customer support I don't know what it is...
Spent only one full day without it, and I live in FL

enrita · 05-13-2013, 06:55 AM

how the hell did he manage to brake it that way? was probably pulling with the screws still in..... LOL

Mike@N54Tuning.com · 05-13-2013, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Mflip335

I recently purchased a JB4 from a member. A buddy of mine was able to help me out. The car started just fine. However I wasnt able to pull up the menu. I clicked the minus and and the down arrow controls. Nothing happened. What could it be?

Did you install the power cable?

Mike

marv85 · 05-13-2013, 09:55 AM

the two missing pins are for METH FSB. if you buy a meth kit you will need to populate those two empty slots for meth control.

as for the bent pins, the guy that had the JB4 should be driving a bicycle at most

DLam · 05-13-2013, 12:22 PM

to my understannding, everything was installed correctly. we believe its the harness. i swapped my jb4 into his car and worked fine. tried using his board and worked fine with my harness.

Mike@N54Tuning.com · 05-13-2013, 12:46 PM

I guess one of the downfalls of buying used. You wouldn't believe the state of some of these harnesses that i have seen from people buying used. It boggles my mind how people manage to damage and destroy these in the most bizarre ways.

Mike

335speed · 05-13-2013, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike@N54Tuning.com

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mflip335

I recently purchased a JB4 from a member. A buddy of mine was able to help me out. The car started just fine. However I wasnt able to pull up the menu. I clicked the minus and and the down arrow controls. Nothing happened. What could it be?

Did you install the power cable?

Mike

Still works without the power cable..... Lol done it myself :P

Mflip335 · 05-13-2013, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by boostaholic786

You might want to plug in your laptop and go to settings, if I'm not mistaken and make sure at the bottom of the page it says disable steering wheel controls so maybe the ex user deactivated his steering wheel controls and that's probably all it is

Good point, but the board worked fine in my buddies car...I'll take a look at it regardless.

Mflip335 · 05-13-2013, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike@N54Tuning.com

I guess one of the downfalls of buying used. You wouldn't believe the state of some of these harnesses that i have seen from people buying used. It boggles my mind how people manage to damage and destroy these in the most bizarre ways.

Mike

Yea, blows my mind even more that someone would sell defective stuff and think its ok.

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MasterWang Captain 136 Rep 925 Posts Drives: F06 M6 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Overland Park, KS iTrader: (2)	I purchased a used jb4 with broken pins my first time. Didn't realize the pins were broken until I faced the same problem you did. Installed, car started fine, but couldn't get to the menu. This is what my pins looked like. Didn't see this because it was already attached to the jb4 housing. Attached Images
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MasterWang Captain 136 Rep 925 Posts Drives: F06 M6 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Overland Park, KS iTrader: (2)	I purchased through Paypal so I told the seller, shipped it back to the seller, and he sent me a full refund.
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Mflip335 Second Lieutenant 12 Rep 224 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Fairfax, VA iTrader: (2)	Well, I guess this was the reason why. Attached Images __________________ Sofitted \| Survival of the Fitted www.sofitted.com
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Snaggletooth General Nuisance 25 Rep 277 Posts Drives: 2007 E92 335i Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Orange County, CA iTrader: (0)	two missing pins are normal, thats where the meth FSB goes. __________________ '07 E92 335i 6MT Full Bolt On's, Vargas Stage 2's, Carbon Fiber, and Methanol.
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Deep_Blue First Lieutenant 70 Rep 374 Posts Drives: Montego 335i e90 Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: internet iTrader: (1)	mine is missing those two pins as well, but works perfectly. I would go back into the ECU box and make sure that when you plugged the JB4 connectors into the stock connectors that used to run into the ECU that you didnt get one on backwards. If you look at the sides of the connectors, there's a little open rectangle on one side. Make sure these are matched up or you have one on backwards and things get weird.
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Snaggletooth General Nuisance 25 Rep 277 Posts Drives: 2007 E92 335i Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Orange County, CA iTrader: (0)	You guys, i promise you that those two empty pins are there for a reason, thats where you'd wire in the FSB for your methanol kit so that it integrates with the JB4. I believe that's also where the speed limiter delete would go (but i havent personally tried it). It could just be defective assuming all the pins are straight. __________________ '07 E92 335i 6MT Full Bolt On's, Vargas Stage 2's, Carbon Fiber, and Methanol.
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GAM Lieutenant 39 Rep 471 Posts Drives: 2014 M6 Gran Coupe Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Palm Beach iTrader: (1)	Send it to BMS and they will replace what needs to be done. Mine had an issue, I sent it overnight, terry received it at 10am the next day, changed whatever needed to be done, and he shipped it overnight back the same day at 6pm, I had it the next day.. If that's not an amazing customer support I don't know what it is... Spent only one full day without it, and I live in FL
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marv85 Colonel 70 Rep 2,626 Posts Drives: '07 E92 335i MT Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Bay Area iTrader: (7)	the two missing pins are for METH FSB. if you buy a meth kit you will need to populate those two empty slots for meth control. as for the bent pins, the guy that had the JB4 should be driving a bicycle at most __________________ '07 E92 335i 6MT- HP650, inlets/outlets, ER FMIC, VRSF CP, LPFP stg2, CSF rad, 'is Aux rad, ER OC, Ohlins, M control arms, eibach front sway bar. '05 C55 AMG SOLD - '22 Tesla M3P \| '10 E92 335i M, 6MT COBB, FBO, st2 LPFP, Mfactory LSD \| '07 E90 335i, PTF COBB E50, FBO, HFS4
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DLam Major 53 Rep 1,001 Posts Drives: 2008 E90 M3 6MT Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Springfield, VA iTrader: (31)	to my understannding, everything was installed correctly. we believe its the harness. i swapped my jb4 into his car and worked fine. tried using his board and worked fine with my harness. __________________ \| 2008 E90 M3 \| Alpine White \| 6MT \|
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