Problem with the car!

BIFCAIDS · 05-07-2013, 11:17 AM

Hi guys,

Well over the weekend I detailed the BM and she looks spot on now but she doesn't start. "Eeekk"

Now this all came about when I moved the car from the garage and left it on the front and it came up on the screen with the Reduced battery life message I then tried starting it and it turned over but then clicked (dead battery and ! sign in the centre of the clocks), so i tried a few more times in desperation to no avail. So luckily a friend turned up in his E93 and we managed to jump start the car.
I took it for a drive I'll admit not a very long drive about 3 miles then left it running on the drive (5min) then turned it off (car was running for approx 40min). Then the following morning I tried to start the car and it would only turn over but not fire up so I headed to Euro car parts and picked up a new Exide battery and fitted it, yet the car did the same thing... Everything turns on and turns over but the car wont start.

Can anybody give me any advice?

AnthonyR · 05-07-2013, 11:30 AM

may sound silly, do you have fuel in the car? iv also heard that if you have tried it with a flat battery a few times it can lock the car until the codes are cleared again

AlanYoro35i · 05-07-2013, 11:38 AM

Battery need coding to the car...

BIFCAIDS · 05-07-2013, 11:48 AM

Half a tank of fuel and BMW told me the battery doesn't need coding to the car.

In fact out of interest why would a battery need coding to a car?

Dan-danGT · 05-07-2013, 11:54 AM

It should not stop it starting, it so it knows the battery is new and in good condition that's what I'm lead to believe so it knows how much to charge it.

BIFCAIDS · 05-07-2013, 11:55 AM

Might I add I didn't ring BMW my Dad kindly rang while I was in work (not permitted to use phones annoyingly) and briefly described the problem, to which they said it shouldn't need coding.

makkan00 · 05-07-2013, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by AnthonyR

may sound silly, do you have fuel in the car? iv also heard that if you have tried it with a flat battery a few times it can lock the car until the codes are cleared again

I guess you are reading a lot recently and learning very quickly

makkan00 · 05-07-2013, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by BIFCAIDS

Might I add I didn't ring BMW my Dad kindly rang while I was in work (not permitted to use phones annoyingly) and briefly described the problem, to which they said it shouldn't need coding.

If all the specifications of the new battery and old battery are same, you do not need to register the new battery to the car.

However if you have coding equipment and know what you are doing, then it is worth of telling your car that you had a new battery. So car adopts its values to charge the new battery.

As far as the original problem is concerned, its more to do with the error codes on your car then anything else.

BIFCAIDS · 05-07-2013, 12:23 PM

I have no coding equipment but a friend of mine has a diagnostics machine.

As far as the battery goes i entered all the correct car details on the Euro Car Parts site so I can only guess the battery is exactly the same.

BIFCAIDS · 05-07-2013, 12:30 PM

Maybe ill take that back, ive just checked the batter that was in the car and its...

New one

AlanYoro35i · 05-07-2013, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Yoro35i

Battery need a coding machine to clear the fault code that is stopping the car to ignite...

Corrected!!

makkan00 · 05-07-2013, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by BIFCAIDS

Maybe ill take that back, ive just checked the batter that was in the car and its...

New one

see 5Ah difference.
It should not give your car any trouble.
Ask your mate to read all the codes and see nothing is critical there.
If none, then clear, and start the car.

fulcrum · 05-07-2013, 01:32 PM

There is a difference of 100 starting power too! But still should be more than enough.
The EB 950 is not listed as fitting any BMW.

The EA77 amongst others is the one you want - i think

BIFCAIDS · 05-07-2013, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by fulcrum

There is a difference of 100 starting power too! But still should be more than enough.
The EB 950 is not listed as fitting any BMW.

The EA77 amongst others is the one you want - i think

Well when I did the search on their site it gave me the part number for that battery, what can I do other than buy what I'm being told is correct?

fulcrum · 05-07-2013, 02:14 PM

http://www.exide-evolution.com/en/tool.html

phil200tdi · 05-07-2013, 02:17 PM

If the car turned over it's not the battery. It would just click..

Sounds like a fueling issue..

BIFCAIDS · 05-07-2013, 03:22 PM

Im getting this code on the diagnostics "ews tampering"

makkan00 · 05-07-2013, 04:02 PM

I sent you a pm.
Get somebody with inpa / autologic and reset your immobilizer settings. When you changed the battery, your immobilizer has lost the settings of your keys.
Worth of trying second key.

fulcrum · 05-07-2013, 04:11 PM

I hope you put the battery in right first time and have not fried the Digital Motor Electronics (DME)

But more likely the immobilizer (EWS) has come out of alignment with the DME.

The only option in this case is to have the EWS reprogrammed

makkan00 · 05-07-2013, 05:01 PM

Guys, anybody who has BMW softwares and USB cable fairly local to OP and willing to help?
If, yes, I will send you the instructions how to sort this out (when you meet the OP).

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BIFCAIDS Bird Flu and Cat Aids combined 857 Rep 1,122 Posts Drives: F30 340i M-Sport+ MPPSK E92 M3 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Manchester iTrader: (0)	Problem with the car! Hi guys, Well over the weekend I detailed the BM and she looks spot on now but she doesn't start. "Eeekk" Now this all came about when I moved the car from the garage and left it on the front and it came up on the screen with the Reduced battery life message I then tried starting it and it turned over but then clicked (dead battery and ! sign in the centre of the clocks), so i tried a few more times in desperation to no avail. So luckily a friend turned up in his E93 and we managed to jump start the car. I took it for a drive I'll admit not a very long drive about 3 miles then left it running on the drive (5min) then turned it off (car was running for approx 40min). Then the following morning I tried to start the car and it would only turn over but not fire up so I headed to Euro car parts and picked up a new Exide battery and fitted it, yet the car did the same thing... Everything turns on and turns over but the car wont start. Can anybody give me any advice? __________________ Instagram: BIFCAIDS
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AnthonyR Major 233 Rep 1,178 Posts Drives: BMW G82 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: London/Watford iTrader: (0)	may sound silly, do you have fuel in the car? iv also heard that if you have tried it with a flat battery a few times it can lock the car until the codes are cleared again
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BIFCAIDS Bird Flu and Cat Aids combined 857 Rep 1,122 Posts Drives: F30 340i M-Sport+ MPPSK E92 M3 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Manchester iTrader: (0)	Half a tank of fuel and BMW told me the battery doesn't need coding to the car. In fact out of interest why would a battery need coding to a car? __________________ Instagram: BIFCAIDS
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Dan-danGT Captain 33 Rep 650 Posts Drives: E90 330d M-Sport Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Nottinghamshire iTrader: (0)	It should not stop it starting, it so it knows the battery is new and in good condition that's what I'm lead to believe so it knows how much to charge it.
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BIFCAIDS Bird Flu and Cat Aids combined 857 Rep 1,122 Posts Drives: F30 340i M-Sport+ MPPSK E92 M3 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Manchester iTrader: (0)	Might I add I didn't ring BMW my Dad kindly rang while I was in work (not permitted to use phones annoyingly) and briefly described the problem, to which they said it shouldn't need coding. __________________ Instagram: BIFCAIDS
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BIFCAIDS Bird Flu and Cat Aids combined 857 Rep 1,122 Posts Drives: F30 340i M-Sport+ MPPSK E92 M3 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Manchester iTrader: (0)	I have no coding equipment but a friend of mine has a diagnostics machine. As far as the battery goes i entered all the correct car details on the Euro Car Parts site so I can only guess the battery is exactly the same. __________________ Instagram: BIFCAIDS
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BIFCAIDS Bird Flu and Cat Aids combined 857 Rep 1,122 Posts Drives: F30 340i M-Sport+ MPPSK E92 M3 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Manchester iTrader: (0)	Maybe ill take that back, ive just checked the batter that was in the car and its... New one __________________ Instagram: BIFCAIDS
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fulcrum Lieutenant 9 Rep 463 Posts Drives: E92,F22, F36, G01 Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: London iTrader: (0)	There is a difference of 100 starting power too! But still should be more than enough. The EB 950 is not listed as fitting any BMW. The EA77 amongst others is the one you want - i think Last edited by fulcrum; 05-07-2013 at 01:40 PM..
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phil200tdi Colonel 112 Rep 2,621 Posts Drives: 335i M Sport E90 LCI manual Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Aylesbury iTrader: (1)	If the car turned over it's not the battery. It would just click.. Sounds like a fueling issue.. __________________ Car: e91 330d with Viezu map Gone but not forgotten: 2010 Jaguar XFR (Cat-back exhaust, pulley, intake mods and map), Highly Modified E90 335i LCI M Sport Manual (circa 480BHP/500lb ft)
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BIFCAIDS Bird Flu and Cat Aids combined 857 Rep 1,122 Posts Drives: F30 340i M-Sport+ MPPSK E92 M3 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Manchester iTrader: (0)	Im getting this code on the diagnostics "ews tampering" __________________ Instagram: BIFCAIDS
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makkan00 Major General 886 Rep 9,097 Posts Drives: F83 and F36 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Essex iTrader: (56)	I sent you a pm. Get somebody with inpa / autologic and reset your immobilizer settings. When you changed the battery, your immobilizer has lost the settings of your keys. Worth of trying second key. __________________ F36 Xdrive for her - HUD, park assist, heated steering wheel, rear camera, Apple car play F36 RWD for him - HK, M sports pack, GTS tail light, Apple car play
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fulcrum Lieutenant 9 Rep 463 Posts Drives: E92,F22, F36, G01 Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: London iTrader: (0)	I hope you put the battery in right first time and have not fried the Digital Motor Electronics (DME) But more likely the immobilizer (EWS) has come out of alignment with the DME. The only option in this case is to have the EWS reprogrammed
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makkan00 Major General 886 Rep 9,097 Posts Drives: F83 and F36 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Essex iTrader: (56)	Guys, anybody who has BMW softwares and USB cable fairly local to OP and willing to help? If, yes, I will send you the instructions how to sort this out (when you meet the OP). __________________ F36 Xdrive for her - HUD, park assist, heated steering wheel, rear camera, Apple car play F36 RWD for him - HK, M sports pack, GTS tail light, Apple car play
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