N55 HPFP (Fuel Pump) Failure

bsamoul · 09-18-2010, 03:17 PM

That's really disappointing.

09-18-2010, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by shockin330i

Case number 2

So another N55 fuel pumped failed first? Do you have the link?

dtc100 · 09-18-2010, 03:17 PM

Just curious, I keep reading the HPFP failure stories, some of you are on the third or fourth pump. But I never read any of you asked for a buyback. Why?

shockin330i · 09-18-2010, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by beemer3

So another N55 fuel pumped failed first? Do you have the link?

Yup, on a 135i...

alex_c · 09-18-2010, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by adrianBMW99

Hey, I just got her back, they were able to finish it today and they said because the car was so new, they were scanning the entire dme before and after to send off to BMW to investigate this issue further. The new pump I received is a -933 pump which they stated was the newest they had after receiving a new batch. I think BMW is consistently working this issue but it has proven to be a very difficult one. I am not that angry, I am only on pump #2 now, now when 3,4, and 5 roll around, someone is gonna get it...

Can you tell us which brand of fuel do you normally use, and the octane rating?

Thanks.

adrianBMW99 · 09-18-2010, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by alex_c

Can you tell us which brand of fuel do you normally use, and the octane rating?

Thanks.

Absolutely, I live in Florida so it's always 93 octane but I alternate brands. BP, Chevron, Murphy USA (Wal-Mart), Exxon, Hess, Shell, whatever is closest at the time. They are always name brand fuels though, no gas stations in the middle of nowhere. The general consensus seems to be that Shell is the best for BMW due to lower Ethanol percentages, unfortunately I don't have too many of those around me. I am pretty sure that I have had Shell gas numerous times though!

jmar0351 · 09-18-2010, 04:25 PM

I think one of the main reasons why there is no after market pump is that bmw knows about this issue. If you drop or fabricate a different pump you run the risk of voiding the whole engine. Bmw has stepped up and at least fixes these things out to 10/100k ... or 120k...

BimmerG · 09-18-2010, 04:36 PM

Just curious... How long did it take to replace? How much is it out of pocket?

Quote:

Originally Posted by adrianBMW99

Hey, I just got her back, they were able to finish it today and they said because the car was so new, they were scanning the entire dme before and after to send off to BMW to investigate this issue further. The new pump I received is a -933 pump which they stated was the newest they had after receiving a new batch. I think BMW is consistently working this issue but it has proven to be a very difficult one. I am not that angry, I am only on pump #2 now, now when 3,4, and 5 roll around, someone is gonna get it...

jmar0351 · 09-18-2010, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by BimmerG

Just curious... How long did it take to replace? How much is it out of pocket?

I can't tell you how long, but its 0 out of pocket... its a new car bmw better cover it.

John 070 · 09-18-2010, 05:15 PM

That's a shame. A 2k11 car with 1500 mi. gets a remanufactured fuel pump that came out of another car. BMW and their famous cost-benefit analysis.

ak335 · 09-18-2010, 05:16 PM

LULLLZ

John 070 · 09-18-2010, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by jmar0351

Bmw has stepped up and at least fixes these things out to 10/100k ... or 120k...

Stepped up, to what? Those letters went out in early 2007. Doesn't take much effort to print and mail more of them out.

adrianBMW99 · 09-18-2010, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by BimmerG

Just curious... How long did it take to replace? How much is it out of pocket?

Well, I left the car overnight because it was already later in the day and most of the techs had already left. The dealership handled it well, I got a 328i loaner so all it cost me was $8 in gas money. It's a brand new car so if it cost me anything, I would have shitted a brick.

I spoke with one of the techs the next day and they said that it is actually a little harder to do this in an N55 because there are more components that have to come off first. My guess is that when one knows what he is doing, this is a process that should probably take no longer than 4-5 hrs including software programming (if new software is available). No one, however; was particularly optimistic about this new pump so who knows

. As far as costs to them, I imagine it cost well over a grand, a new HPFP is somewhere in the neighborhood of $720 (from what I've heard) plus 4-5 hrs of labor at probably $90-100 so around $1200 is my best guess.

Whoever has a modded car, it is wise to make sure that particular part (fuel pump) on your car does not get its warranty voided because it will cost in the long run.

Bavarian E92 · 09-18-2010, 05:30 PM

Wow this is ridiculous. I would expect this from BMW.. How can you sell a new model car with known problems? that's borderline false advertising and consumer fraud

martho05 · 09-18-2010, 05:31 PM

BOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

forza1976 · 09-18-2010, 05:36 PM

unbelievable, sorry to hear it OP

gary88 · 09-18-2010, 05:40 PM

Nobody is safe

bavarian19 · 09-18-2010, 05:41 PM

Repsol · 09-18-2010, 05:41 PM

That sucks. Hopefully its the only time it fails

TheRox · 09-18-2010, 05:53 PM

As bad as this is, I guess it means they will keep researching

This motor will power the 740, 535, x6, x5, x3, , maybe x1?, 335, 135, and probably some others I missed

So they need to address this. For n54, that means we may get a fix by the time 6 or 8 years rolls around.

BTM · 09-18-2010, 05:57 PM

Sorry OP

nbkkvv5 · 09-18-2010, 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John 070

That's a shame. A 2k11 car with 1500 mi. gets a remanufactured fuel pump that came out of another car. BMW and their famous cost-benefit analysis.

Maybe not...my 933 pump has given me 2500 trouble free miles so far and BMW has got to do something with all those old pumps laying around the factory

OP ... sorry to hear about your hpfp ...hope you have better luck with the 933 pump

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