Aussie Bmw Dealerships (black List)

Chris.G · 12-18-2007, 05:22 AM

Its official Alto BMW have just lost there BMW dealership. I don't know about BMW Aus being taken to court by Alto but if so it has definitely lost because i got the letter today stating they are getting taken over very soon.

CaptOz · 12-18-2007, 05:30 AM

I got it today too.

It says Alto can only do non-warranty work now. No new BMW sales.

Cheers,

CaptOz

Chris.G · 12-18-2007, 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by CaptOz

I got it today too.

It says Alto can only do non-warranty work now. No new BMW sales.

Cheers,

CaptOz

Which Alto did you buy from?

CaptOz · 12-18-2007, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris.G

Which Alto did you buy from?

I bought two cars from Pennant Hills. An X5 and a 320i.

Cheers,

CaptOz

astra · 12-18-2007, 05:11 PM

Funny you know, but when I was at uni waiting for an interview, who should i be sitting next to, but a tech from Alto Artarmon?

What an interesting conversation, for both parties, lol

Loosing their dealership to none other then Audi, which must mean that the Audi place up the road is closing too? Or that they are just moving in there instead...

RN318 · 12-19-2007, 01:01 AM

Weren't they using chinese/jap parts or something instead of the genuine BMW parts?

astra · 12-19-2007, 01:06 AM

Reminds me of a story I heard a while back;

A guy walked into his dealer and asked them to pop the used air filter in his boot when they had done changing it...

When he got back to his car after they "serviced it", he checked in the boot, and there was an old air filter. Funny thing was though, it wasn't his. He had been using a K&N filter, and they popped a BMW one in the back, but still charged him for it... Dodgy bastards!

CaptOz · 12-19-2007, 04:36 AM

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Originally Posted by astra

Reminds me of a story I heard a while back;

A gay walked into his dealer and asked them to pop the used air filter in his boot when they had done changing it...

When he got back to his car after they "serviced it", he checked in the boot, and there was an old air filter. Funny thing was though, it wasn't his. He had been using a K&N filter, and they popped a BMW one in the back, but still charged him for it... Dodgy bastards!

When I first started to read this, I thought you were telling a joke.

Cheers,

CaptOz

amberzombie · 12-19-2007, 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by CaptOz

When I first started to read this, I thought you were telling a joke.

Cheers,

CaptOz

+1

astra · 12-19-2007, 05:01 PM

Lol, wow, I so didn't mean to say that lol... I don't think he way gay?!? LOL

AndDee · 12-22-2007, 05:15 AM

Always interesting when you ask for the parts back from a service, after you have marked them in some discreet way

VGR00 · 12-22-2007, 08:28 PM

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Always interesting when you ask for the parts back from a service, after you have marked them in some discreet way

Funny you should say that because the last major service I had done at a BMW dealer on my E39, they replaced a "light control module" at $800. Since i'm in the Electronicis manufacturing game, I asked for the faulty one so I could pull it apart to see what true value it had but they could not find it. Hmmm...... makes you very suspicious. The total bill that day cost me about $1800 and that incident made me turn away from getting that car serviced at the dealer from that day forward.

astra · 12-23-2007, 02:39 AM

I have no problem going to indipendant BMW specialists now, as long as they know their stuff, they're fine... They also charge a whole lot less then the dealers!

GeriFix · 01-04-2008, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris.G

Its official Alto BMW have just lost there BMW dealership. I don't know about BMW Aus being taken to court by Alto but if so it has definitely lost because i got the letter today stating they are getting taken over very soon.

Alto Artarmon looks quite bare without the BMW signage now. The same day as the signs went down, a rather shabby Alto Audi sign went up on the former Scotts Audi dealership down the road. It seems no-one wants to sell Audis in this part of Sydney. In the past 8 years it has been Chatswood Classic, Scotts, and now Alto ...... if they are still using the same service center in Carlotta Street, I would continue to avoid that marque. I had an S4 some years ago that developed a leak in the power steering system (whilst under warrantee) ... in the end I had to write a snotty letter to Astre (the Australian distributors) to get some resolution (after 2 failed servicings by the Carlotta Street clowns and a complaint to Chatswood Classics manager). That lot really are muppets.

I'm surprised that the site in Chatswood (Pacific Highway opposite Albert Street) hasn't revealed its (presumably) BMW sign yet. Hopefully, with BMW Australia taking over the dealership in this part of town, the quality of service mechanics will be as good as at Rushcutters Bay.

Chris.G · 01-04-2008, 01:09 AM

BMW Sydney has got there priorities right, excellent service and also very good negotiators. Im glad BMW Aus is going to open closer to Chatswood now, i can just take my car there for service when it arrives.

AndDee · 02-24-2008, 07:49 AM

Well another update, I pick up my new baby in just over 2 weeks!

Dealing with Marcus from Bib Stilwell in Prahran has been outstanding, prompt replies to any emails and updates as to when my car will be ready!

Great service and just so different from what I experienced from Doncaster BMW!

amberzombie · 02-24-2008, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by astra

I have no problem going to indipendant BMW specialists now, as long as they know their stuff, they're fine... They also charge a whole lot less then the dealers!

Where would one find an independent BMW specialist? are there many around sydney?

astra · 02-24-2008, 06:10 PM

There are a few who can do it, but I like BEMW (the do euro cars), I thought they were clean, and kept a good workshop (I seem to have trouble finding clean people do repair, install things on my car, theyalways seem to mess up the leather), and were very friendly, with good prices and quite knowledgeable

I can't go there now though, cos the driveway would **** my car

I now go to JC Motorsport in Greenacre, he's very good

I know there are alot of people towards the inner suburbs and beaches, just a matter of looking them up or asking around for their numbers...

Ninjaoz · 02-25-2008, 04:19 AM

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Originally Posted by AndDee

Well another update, I pick up my new baby in just over 2 weeks!

Congrats mate, you must be exciting.

AndDee · 02-25-2008, 04:50 PM

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Congrats mate, you must be exciting.

Getting excited, but took my car down for a trade in yesterday and just got a call then with the trade-in price.

About $5k under what I was hoping for, waiting on another call back, hopefully with a better price

Bad thing about purcahsing a car that takes 3-5 months to deliver is that you can't negotiate a change over price with a trade-in at the time of purchase.

Picking up a new daily driver Subaru RX today, excited about that.

Will be exicited when/if I get a call back from BMW with a better trade in price! It felt like he was feeling me out firstly, so hopefully the call back is more realistic!

VGR00 · 02-26-2008, 12:36 AM

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It felt like he was feeling me out firstly, so hopefully the call back is more realistic!

I'm sure that is what he was doing. I'm sure he can find a few more dollars however I feel like dealers have forgoten the art of trade-ins these days. If it aint their brand, there not interested. They just want to wholesale it off and of cause the car changes hands a couple of times before hitting a yard.

Good luck with the negotiation from here.

AndDee · 02-26-2008, 03:07 AM

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Originally Posted by vgr02

I'm sure that is what he was doing. I'm sure he can find a few more dollars however I feel like dealers have forgoten the art of trade-ins these days. If it aint their brand, there not interested. They just want to wholesale it off and of cause the car changes hands a couple of times before hitting a yard.

Good luck with the negotiation from here.

He rang back with an extra $500, so $22,500 for a 2004 MY05 Gt Liberty with 105,000kms on the clock

Went to Subaru today to pick up my daily driver, not a bad car for $25,000 the Impreza! They are going to give me a call tomorrow with a buy price for my GT Liberty as they think they can do a bit better than $22,500.

Redbook lists my car for between $29-$32k and most sales both private and dealer are between 29-38k.

My thoughts
Trade in at $22,500 which while low I need to account for the following:
Various scratches on the rear bumper $300
100,000km major service due $1800
Scratches on the front bumper $200
Cost of advertising $100
Cost of wasted time and annoying phone calls $500

This brings the price up to $25400 which is OK

Need to sleep on it I think, as doing a private sale I may sell it for around $28,000 after repairs, paint fixes and service.

12-18-2007, 05:22 AM	#221
Chris.G Banned 105 Rep 3,120 Posts Drives: 2011 LCI MSPORT X5 30d Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia iTrader: (0)	Its official Alto BMW have just lost there BMW dealership. I don't know about BMW Aus being taken to court by Alto but if so it has definitely lost because i got the letter today stating they are getting taken over very soon.
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12-18-2007, 05:30 AM	#222
CaptOz Captain 31 Rep 833 Posts Drives: Porsche 911 Carrera S Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia iTrader: (0)	I got it today too. It says Alto can only do non-warranty work now. No new BMW sales. Cheers, CaptOz
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12-18-2007, 05:11 PM	#225
astra Brigadier General 94 Rep 3,748 Posts Drives: BMW 325Ci Individual Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Sydney iTrader: (0) Garage List 2005 325Ci Individual [0.00]	Funny you know, but when I was at uni waiting for an interview, who should i be sitting next to, but a tech from Alto Artarmon? What an interesting conversation, for both parties, lol Loosing their dealership to none other then Audi, which must mean that the Audi place up the road is closing too? Or that they are just moving in there instead... __________________
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RN318 Private First Class 4 Rep 174 Posts Drives: BMW :D Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Australia iTrader: (0)	Weren't they using chinese/jap parts or something instead of the genuine BMW parts?
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astra Brigadier General 94 Rep 3,748 Posts Drives: BMW 325Ci Individual Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Sydney iTrader: (0) Garage List 2005 325Ci Individual [0.00]	Reminds me of a story I heard a while back; A guy walked into his dealer and asked them to pop the used air filter in his boot when they had done changing it... When he got back to his car after they "serviced it", he checked in the boot, and there was an old air filter. Funny thing was though, it wasn't his. He had been using a K&N filter, and they popped a BMW one in the back, but still charged him for it... Dodgy bastards! __________________ Last edited by astra; 12-19-2007 at 05:03 PM..
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astra Brigadier General 94 Rep 3,748 Posts Drives: BMW 325Ci Individual Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Sydney iTrader: (0) Garage List 2005 325Ci Individual [0.00]	Lol, wow, I so didn't mean to say that lol... I don't think he way gay?!? LOL __________________
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AndDee Second Lieutenant 4 Rep 206 Posts Drives: 335i Coupe Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Melbourne, Australia iTrader: (0)	Always interesting when you ask for the parts back from a service, after you have marked them in some discreet way
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astra Brigadier General 94 Rep 3,748 Posts Drives: BMW 325Ci Individual Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Sydney iTrader: (0) Garage List 2005 325Ci Individual [0.00]	I have no problem going to indipendant BMW specialists now, as long as they know their stuff, they're fine... They also charge a whole lot less then the dealers! __________________
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01-04-2008, 01:09 AM	#235
Chris.G Banned 105 Rep 3,120 Posts Drives: 2011 LCI MSPORT X5 30d Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia iTrader: (0)	BMW Sydney has got there priorities right, excellent service and also very good negotiators. Im glad BMW Aus is going to open closer to Chatswood now, i can just take my car there for service when it arrives.
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02-24-2008, 07:49 AM	#236
AndDee Second Lieutenant 4 Rep 206 Posts Drives: 335i Coupe Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Melbourne, Australia iTrader: (0)	Well another update, I pick up my new baby in just over 2 weeks! Dealing with Marcus from Bib Stilwell in Prahran has been outstanding, prompt replies to any emails and updates as to when my car will be ready! Great service and just so different from what I experienced from Doncaster BMW!
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02-24-2008, 06:10 PM	#238
astra Brigadier General 94 Rep 3,748 Posts Drives: BMW 325Ci Individual Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Sydney iTrader: (0) Garage List 2005 325Ci Individual [0.00]	There are a few who can do it, but I like BEMW (the do euro cars), I thought they were clean, and kept a good workshop (I seem to have trouble finding clean people do repair, install things on my car, theyalways seem to mess up the leather), and were very friendly, with good prices and quite knowledgeable I can't go there now though, cos the driveway would **** my car I now go to JC Motorsport in Greenacre, he's very good I know there are alot of people towards the inner suburbs and beaches, just a matter of looking them up or asking around for their numbers... __________________
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