[SuperSport]

I am not sure how many people are attempting to trade their 330 in for a 335, but I was wondering how much dealers are offering to give for the 330.

[Alpine003]

I would like to know too since I'm sure there are a good amount of people that weren't too happy about this situation when the turbo's came out.

[bavarian19]

expect to take a big hit on depreciation...

[SuperSport]

I was hoping one of the dealer sponsers will chime in to give me an idea.

The car is a:

Blk/Blk, ZPP,ZSP, Nav., Step, wood, with 11400 miles, and in very good condition.

[CALIF65GM]

Originally Posted by SuperSport

I was hoping one of the dealer sponsers will chime in to give me an idea.

The car is a:

Blk/Blk, ZPP,ZSP, Nav., Step, wood, with 11400 miles, and in very good condition.

Check out bimmerfest.com. It's in the e90 forum titles "Frustrated Buyer".

There's someone wanting to buy a used one. I don't think he wants black, but you have all the other options. I'm not sure about the mileage either. I think he's hoping for a lower mileage car too.

[John 070]

Why I think a question like this has no meaning is that one can simply go to kbb.com and see what the trade-in value is on the 330. Why would you expect a dealer to allow for any more than wholesale or trade-in? They are looking to make a profit on the trade, AND the sale of the new car, i.e. 335? I have no clue what the wait is for a 335, but last week I saw 5 mos., and yesterday 6-8 mos? I have no comment on that because I don't know that to be the case from experience. Point is a 335 is not a car that needs an incentive to sell it.

If you trade in a 330i for a Chevy Cobalt, there may be a 2k incentive to move the Chevy. So you add 2k to the kbb value on the 330i. The dealer is not giving up his profit in taking the 330i in trade, he's padding the number by adding the incentive to it, which saves you sales tax on 2k.

So your question has two variables. How much does a 330 fetch in trade. EAsy, look it up on kbb, and look at the trade-in value, forget private party and retail. Then, how much does a 335 sell for. EAsy, walk into any dealer and offer to buy one with cash, tell them you have no trade nor financing needed, and you're not interested in leasing. Now, take those two numbers and subtract, and that's how much it costs to make the switch.

[Alpine003]

Originally Posted by John 070

Why I think a question like this has no meaning is that one can simply go to kbb.com and see what the trade-in value is on the 330.

KBB is way off the mark on used BMW values as shown time and time again. I wouldn't go by KBB for BMW's and I'm not sure if Dealers do either.

[SuperSport]

I pretty much figured that I wouldn't be getting top dollar. I did check out the KBB.com values, which look good, but I understand they may not be a fair evaluation of the market. I was basically trying to get a idea of how bad I was gonna get soaked on the 330 ??

[John 070]

Originally Posted by Alpine003

KBB is way off the mark on used BMW values as shown time and time again. I wouldn't go by KBB for BMW's and I'm not sure if Dealers do either.

Your belief that there is no given value on a used BMW is a sure-fire way to ensure that you either pay too much, or you are not able to make a deal. We're talking about Blue Book for cars, not zillow.com for house values. The latter is arbitrary and has little credence. My house went down 85k in a week according to zillow, that's obviously innacurate. But I would not say the same for kbb.

[John 070]

Originally Posted by SuperSport

I pretty much figured that I wouldn't be getting top dollar. I did check out the KBB.com values, which look good, but I understand they may not be a fair evaluation of the market. I was basically trying to get a idea of how bad I was gonna get soaked on the 330 ??

The difference in whatever the wholesale (if not kbb then another source) value of the 330 and what you paid for it, PLUS whatever you have to overpay i.e. profit to the dealership on the new car.

Maybe I can illustrate with an example--my g/f's aunt joined an exclusive brand-new gym, before they even started to build it. Her cost was $399 initiation, plus $50/mo. for 3 years. She said the Bally's in her area is $80/mo. Your question would be like her to say how much do I lose if I walk away from this gym deal that I agreed to? Doesn't common sense imply that even if she agreed she lost $399, and also $50 times 36, that it's a bad move even after 4 or 5 yrs. to cancel? Just common sense, without looking at the numbers?

My point is every time we buy a car, we get a little ripped-off even when paying cash and not getting involved with financing, leasing, additional packages, etc. Therefore we should do it as little as possible. Many don't agree and love to have a new car every 12-36 mos. Somehow they are able to forget about how much $$$ is wasted. To be in such a position is nice, I suppose.