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06-15-2007, 08:53 AM | #23 |
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You took it into BMW? Did you take out the PROCede?
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06-15-2007, 01:37 PM | #24 | |
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Hey man, I am as much of a PROcede supporter as you, but I will have to say that it is PROcede related (and XEDE too). It's a boost target issue. The low boost target map solves the issue. |
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06-15-2007, 02:03 PM | #25 |
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I had this the other day with the Xede, stopped the car and it cleared, coming off the motorway and it came up again, couldn't get it to go out again until I removed the Xede.
Took it into my friendly neighbourhood BMW dealer and asked them to check the codes and it came back as boost error, and on the over run. Just seemed strange that I couldn't get it to go off until I removed the unit. May put it back in tomorrow and see how I get on. |
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06-15-2007, 02:05 PM | #26 |
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No, I don't think so. I actually wasn't on boost when it happened to me 4 weeks ago. I spoke with Shiv about this the day it happened to me, and he specifically said that I do not need the 'low boost target' map. Plus, I would think that if it were PROcede related (and a boost target not being reached), then it would happen several times in a short period of time. For most ppl, this exact 'limp mode' problem seems to surface only 1 or 2 times, and typically while cruising (not under boost). I do know exactly what's causing the limp mode to occur in these cars, but I'm fairly confident it's not PROcede related.
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06-15-2007, 02:40 PM | #29 |
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06-15-2007, 03:21 PM | #30 | |
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I don't think so, 12.5:1 or whatever is within the operation range of the sensor. I think it would need to be 10.1:1 or richer to even effect sensor life. In my humble opinion, the limp mode is the result of various plausability tests the ECU does. It can be fixed with better piggyback programming. In the mean time just control-alt-delete when it happens. |
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06-15-2007, 03:45 PM | #31 | |
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06-15-2007, 03:56 PM | #33 | |
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06-16-2007, 02:12 AM | #34 |
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Cookiemonster, how many seconds?
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06-16-2007, 03:29 AM | #36 |
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If the code is triggered under boost, use the LBT (lower boost target) version of the v1.45 map. That will fix the problem. Now that its getting hotter outside, its harder for the turbos to reach the desired boost targets.
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06-17-2007, 11:50 AM | #37 |
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another one ...
Cruised on a highway today @ 80mph ( steptronic, D-mode, 6th gear ). BINNNNG! The CEL (engine half filled/half dark icon) was on, car ran fine, reduced power.
Outside temp: 77 degrees Oil temp: 240 degrees Car build: End of April / 07 Cruise control: on AC: on Gas: Shell V-Power ( 100 EU octane ) Gas additives: none PROcede map: v1.45 steptronic Other mod's: none Driving time until error occured: 50 minutes Error code reported by Creader: none Error went away after stopping and starting the engine. Engine runs perfect. Still breaking in the car ( 620 miles / 1000 km done so far ). I see that some of us had this problem already, regardless if they use Xede or PROcede. Nobody reported such a problem without a piggyback. Can it be related somehow to what we do with the 335i's rear boost solenoid ? I hope a solution for this problem will be available soon. In the meantime I will record my failures here: 2007-06-17 first time @Shiv: I don't think it has something to do with not reaching the desired boost targets. Cheers Eugen Last edited by e.n335; 06-17-2007 at 01:56 PM.. |
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06-17-2007, 12:05 PM | #38 |
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Could someone get this random code read by a dealership? It will still be in memory even after you turned the car on/off. As soon as I have this info, I can figure out the cause and solve it pretty easily. I haven't seen this problem myself. Nor has anyone who is remotely local to us reported any such issue.
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06-17-2007, 12:09 PM | #39 | |
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06-17-2007, 12:11 PM | #40 |
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06-17-2007, 12:30 PM | #42 | |
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1) I cleared all errors at a dealership after my successful PROcede install ( first time I installed with ignition on due to an open door ) 2) Thus I am breaking in the engine, until now I never reved it above 4.500 rpm and never floored the gas pedal. I am really curious about the problem. Cheers Eugen |
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06-17-2007, 01:11 PM | #43 | |
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Could this explain why I got a 0304 code (bad spark plug) the first time i ran the car with PROcede ? i remember having additives in the fuel (with only about 700 miles on the car). I still use the stuff w/o any problems (2500 miles on the car). IF the injectors are so sensitive then wouldnt the additives (detergents, etc) in the "first tier" class gas hurt the injectors just the same? or is that different? sorry about these ignorant questions... Thanks. |
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06-17-2007, 01:36 PM | #44 | |
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Also, it appears that this issue is a very random one, since most of us who experienced this limp mode did so only once. It happened to my car 4 weeks ago (after having Shiv's XEDE in for 4 months and the PROcede in for 1 month), and so far, it hasn't returned in 4 weeks. In addition, just like you, I was cruising on the hwy. @ 65mph while in M6 gear (and not on boost). Let us know what, if anything, you find out. Thanks.
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