Urgent Question

drewmeyer87 · 07-12-2012, 11:14 PM

Hi Guys,

UPDATE - After the dealer performed an alignment, they test drove the car and a Meth fire started as the technician was driving the car.

The SA said:
While on the road test for the alignment your car caught fire at the left front.

We performed a smoke test on the washer tank after the fire was put out & we have smoke leaking out of from the washer pump area. Looks like the methanol leaked out of the pump & blew back onto the exhaust igniting the fire. We have some basic disassembly performed to check the extent of the damage. We will need to perform further disassembly to get an estimate for the full extent of the damage.

Luckily the technician was close to the shop when he noticed a burning odor & was able to get back to the shop where one of the other technicians noticed the flames from under the car & grabbed a fire extinguisher keeping the apparent damage to wiring & plastic/rubber components.

I will need an approval of a diagnostic estimate of $309.00 to fully disassembly the burned area to put together a damage estimate. The diagnostic estimate will go towards the cost of repairs.

Problem is... the WW pump, gasket, filter, etc were replaced about 2 months ago, I have activated that pump 1 time to prime the system during a WOT pull, it has never been used since. The only thing I can imagine is that the Technician was trying to activate the WW sprayers and was wondering why they weren't coming on and probably just kept pulling at it thinking it needed to be primed

Nonetheless, I'm extremely distraught and hating myself for not doing the conversion to trunk 2 weeks ago when I was sourcing the parts for it.

VNeBLOB42 · 07-13-2012, 01:06 AM

I would talk with your SA. If he is cool maybe you dont have a problem. If it was me, i wouldnt give them an excuse, thus do what i can to get the car back before they reprogram. One of my SA told me to always unistall incase they had to reprogram and or ecu updates.

enrita · 07-13-2012, 06:42 AM

on map 0 canclear off nothing to worry about. fully reprogramme my car like that without issues.

drewmeyer87 · 07-13-2012, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by enrita

on map 0 canclear off nothing to worry about. fully reprogramme my car like that without issues.

Thanks! I did a little more in-depth research also and it would seem that the air bag programming is separate, like they have a special adapter they connect directly to the module to program it, so it would seem I don't have much to worry about.

Thanks enrita! Good to know, I've read some horror stories (maybe with JB3/4?) I've seem some procede guys say map0/canclear off is pretty safe.

JamesM3M5 · 07-13-2012, 09:26 AM

The only comm errors I've ever seen with a Procede was 1) defective unit and 2) communication to the Autologic drops when running any tune map (1, 2 or 4) with the engine running. In that case, I just have to run the Procede in Map 0 while driving around with the Autologic connected for diagnostics, but that's very rare.

Mike@N54Tuning.com · 07-13-2012, 09:42 AM

If the Can system is off it should not interfere with the ECU re-program. BMW can reflash the ECU with a JB4 on map0 so I imagine the Procede is the same.

Mike

TT3 iN NyC · 07-13-2012, 11:43 PM

I have catless downpipes. Turning CANclear off would cause the SES light.

Should I still turn off CANclear?

drewmeyer87 · 07-13-2012, 11:45 PM

Hmm, I have 3" Catless DPs too, drove 15-20 miles to the dealer with Map 0 and CANClear off, went WOT a couple times too, no SES light. Guess it depends on how sensitive your O2s are?

rader1 · 07-14-2012, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by drewmeyer87

Hmm, I have 3" Catless DPs too, drove 15-20 miles to the dealer with Map 0 and CANClear off, went WOT a couple times too, no SES light. Guess it depends on how sensitive your O2s are?

In order to trigger cat codes the car has to complete OBD2 readiness tests/cycles. It takes a few miles sometimes for that to happen.

drewmeyer87 · 07-14-2012, 10:35 AM

bumb, read OP for update, meth fire at dealer...

rader1 · 07-14-2012, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by drewmeyer87

bumb, read OP for update, meth fire at dealer...

Dammit man, that truly sucks.

n54gte · 07-14-2012, 02:45 PM

wow man this is the last thing i would expect hearing from you...hope everything gets sorted out

07-12-2012, 11:14 PM	#1
drewmeyer87 Chump 10 Rep 173 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: San Diego, CA iTrader: (2)	UPDATE - Meth Fire at dealer Hi Guys, UPDATE - After the dealer performed an alignment, they test drove the car and a Meth fire started as the technician was driving the car. The SA said: While on the road test for the alignment your car caught fire at the left front. We performed a smoke test on the washer tank after the fire was put out & we have smoke leaking out of from the washer pump area. Looks like the methanol leaked out of the pump & blew back onto the exhaust igniting the fire. We have some basic disassembly performed to check the extent of the damage. We will need to perform further disassembly to get an estimate for the full extent of the damage. Luckily the technician was close to the shop when he noticed a burning odor & was able to get back to the shop where one of the other technicians noticed the flames from under the car & grabbed a fire extinguisher keeping the apparent damage to wiring & plastic/rubber components. I will need an approval of a diagnostic estimate of $309.00 to fully disassembly the burned area to put together a damage estimate. The diagnostic estimate will go towards the cost of repairs. Problem is... the WW pump, gasket, filter, etc were replaced about 2 months ago, I have activated that pump 1 time to prime the system during a WOT pull, it has never been used since. The only thing I can imagine is that the Technician was trying to activate the WW sprayers and was wondering why they weren't coming on and probably just kept pulling at it thinking it needed to be primed Nonetheless, I'm extremely distraught and hating myself for not doing the conversion to trunk 2 weeks ago when I was sourcing the parts for it. __________________ 2009 e90 LCI Blacked Out Space Gray - Vishnu Procede 2.5 w/9-10 Aggressive Map Stg2 - PWM Meth (80%) - BMS DCI - VRSF Intercooler - VRSF Downpipes - HKS Cat-back Exhaust Last edited by drewmeyer87; 07-14-2012 at 10:24 AM..
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VNeBLOB42 Lieutenant Colonel 50 Rep 1,677 Posts Drives: 14' GMC Terrain SLT-2 Join Date: May 2011 Location: Folsom, Ca iTrader: (0) Garage List 007 335i E92 [7.66]	I would talk with your SA. If he is cool maybe you dont have a problem. If it was me, i wouldnt give them an excuse, thus do what i can to get the car back before they reprogram. One of my SA told me to always unistall incase they had to reprogram and or ecu updates. __________________ SOLD:: PTF Pro eTune by Dzenno / COBB S1+ E50 Alpina B3 Flash / ETS FMIC / ER CP / CPE DCI
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enrita Major General 159 Rep 7,378 Posts Drives: 335i - Big turbos Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Italian in Sweden iTrader: (0)	on map 0 canclear off nothing to worry about. fully reprogramme my car like that without issues. __________________ 07 335i AT - MOTIV 750 - MHD E85 BMS flash - BMS PI - JB4G5 - Okada Coils - NGK 5992 Plugs - Helix IC - Snow Stg. 3 - Stett CP - Custom midpipes with 100 HJS Cats - Bastuck Quad - PSS10 - QUAIFE LSD - BMS OCC - Forge DVs - AR OC - ALCON BBK - M3 Chassi - Dinan CP - Velocity M rear Toe arms - Advan RZ-DF - LUX H8 - Level 10 AT upgrade
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JamesM3M5 Some dude 91 Rep 1,780 Posts Drives: E92 335i Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Northern VA iTrader: (0)	The only comm errors I've ever seen with a Procede was 1) defective unit and 2) communication to the Autologic drops when running any tune map (1, 2 or 4) with the engine running. In that case, I just have to run the Procede in Map 0 while driving around with the Autologic connected for diagnostics, but that's very rare. __________________ RRT E92 335i/6MT with stuff and things
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Mike@N54Tuning.com Joint Chiefs of Staff 4907 Rep 115,980 Posts Drives: 2007 335i, 2015 M3 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: N54tuning.com iTrader: (89)	If the Can system is off it should not interfere with the ECU re-program. BMW can reflash the ECU with a JB4 on map0 so I imagine the Procede is the same. Mike
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TT3 iN NyC Colonel 247 Rep 2,567 Posts Drives: F80 M3CS Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: nYc iTrader: (9)	I have catless downpipes. Turning CANclear off would cause the SES light. Should I still turn off CANclear? __________________ 07 e92 335i - Retired 18 F80 M3CS - Retired 21 G20 330i M-Sport - Current
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drewmeyer87 Chump 10 Rep 173 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: San Diego, CA iTrader: (2)	Hmm, I have 3" Catless DPs too, drove 15-20 miles to the dealer with Map 0 and CANClear off, went WOT a couple times too, no SES light. Guess it depends on how sensitive your O2s are? __________________ 2009 e90 LCI Blacked Out Space Gray - Vishnu Procede 2.5 w/9-10 Aggressive Map Stg2 - PWM Meth (80%) - BMS DCI - VRSF Intercooler - VRSF Downpipes - HKS Cat-back Exhaust
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drewmeyer87 Chump 10 Rep 173 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: San Diego, CA iTrader: (2)	bumb, read OP for update, meth fire at dealer... __________________ 2009 e90 LCI Blacked Out Space Gray - Vishnu Procede 2.5 w/9-10 Aggressive Map Stg2 - PWM Meth (80%) - BMS DCI - VRSF Intercooler - VRSF Downpipes - HKS Cat-back Exhaust
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n54gte Lieutenant 42 Rep 537 Posts Drives: prius Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: north korea iTrader: (0)	wow man this is the last thing i would expect hearing from you...hope everything gets sorted out
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