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06-06-2009, 11:23 PM | #45 | |
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If there are shavings in the oil you drained you may be screwed... If there are no shavings, you will need to check and verify that there is no turbo damage. Preferably both from the cold and hot sides. If there is you got a lot of work to do... If everything checks out then you need to clean out the piping and count your lucky stars. Good luck!
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06-07-2009, 03:37 AM | #46 |
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How would the metal shavings make their way into the oil?
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06-07-2009, 05:53 PM | #49 |
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I beleive that is the case... If that happens, you would know something was wrong with the engine as the compression would go to hell.
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06-07-2009, 06:03 PM | #50 |
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If those shavings are in the IC, they are in the combustion chambers - I would scope the engine and see what the pistons and walls look, probably do a leakdown test also to see how much damage has been done to the engine. The turbo(s) are most likely done with the IC looking like that, but how much engine damage has been done internally is more of an issue at this point!
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06-07-2009, 08:47 PM | #51 |
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There are oil passages that run along the block for cooling purposes as well as running up into the head as well.
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06-07-2009, 09:57 PM | #52 | |
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if there are metal shavings in the oil pan then yes, there may be some more serious damage. best of luck
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06-08-2009, 12:40 AM | #53 | |
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Hopefully its not a total led engine.. I wish you luck OP. |
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06-08-2009, 08:56 AM | #54 | |
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06-08-2009, 02:11 PM | #55 |
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Bad idea man. Definitely don't do that. Not like it will suck in a bird in your garage, but still its damn risky. Second, metal shavings will accumulate over time. Even a mess as big as what you see took time to create. And.. probably only really happens when the engine is under load loading the turbos. What you are really doing is almost like free wheeling a bicycle, even a badly damaged turbo wont really show in your test unless its completely seized. again the crap you are seeing builds up speck by speck so you really wont see anything this way. I would test by looking at crancase and leakdown test as has been suggesteed on here. Definitely don't invest another penny into mods until you know if you have a solid engine. Its not really looking good frowm what I can see so far.
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06-09-2009, 06:36 PM | #56 |
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OK so I just ordered a 48ft fiber scope so I can look inside the turbos and inside the engine without having to disassemble half the engine to figure out where those shavings are coming from and how extensive the damage is, hopefully is just one of the turbos and the shavings are coming from the blades due to excessive shaft play...I should know by the end of the week...
In the mean time I took out the intake manifold yesterday to check for shavings and there were none, also pulled out one spark plug and it was clean...so thats good to know... the good thing is that Im not freaking out to much just a lil bit frustrated because I want to finish this project and lil things like this are slowing me down |
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06-09-2009, 06:41 PM | #57 |
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Gotta wonder if the blades might be wearing against the compressor housing and that is where the material is coming from.
If that's the case, then the actual blades might look OK on the scope......just depends which material is harder - the compressor housing or the blades themselves. The material is probably coming from the softer metal. |
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06-09-2009, 06:58 PM | #59 | |
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I guess we'll find out soon... |
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06-09-2009, 09:48 PM | #60 |
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I think your engine will be just fine. Those are very fine particles and the FMIC does a good job of acting like a filter, besides the fact that the kind of debris you are showing would go right through the engine without incident. I do think you have at least one blown turbo though.
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06-11-2009, 07:53 PM | #61 |
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Ok I finally found out where all the shaving were coming from, and as some of you suspected yes is they were coming from the turbo, the front turbo as a matter of fact... it looks like the nut came off and shattered all the blades...the rear turbo is fine the blades look good...
sorry for the crappy pics but is kind of hard to take pics thru a fibersope. [IMG]http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y247/******/Fiberscope/DSCN0957.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y247/******/Fiberscope/DSCN0958.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y247/******/Fiberscope/DSCN0959.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y247/******/Fiberscope/DSCN0960.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y247/******/Fiberscope/DSCN0962.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y247/******/Fiberscope/DSCN0952.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y247/******/Fiberscope/DSCN0956.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y247/******/Fiberscope/DSCN0954.jpg[/IMG] |
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06-11-2009, 08:09 PM | #62 |
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If you replace the Turbo, make sure you replace both I'd really doubt its completely intact either. Those small shaving, the metal dust work their way around the engine out the Turbos too. I mean you had a lot of shavings, I am sure some got past your pistons too scratching the cylinder walls, but probably not enough to cause any real noticeable damage. The turbos, different story. I'd change both of them. Sorry man, I thought your Turbo was SOL, but still it feels bad seeing the reality of it. Anyway, atleast now you are aware of where they are coming from.
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06-11-2009, 08:19 PM | #63 |
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Wow. Nice pictures. I just saw my turbo blades yesterday when the downpipes were off and they looked great so far.
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06-11-2009, 08:59 PM | #66 | |
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Great Pics thanks for sharing! I'm hoping you get it fixed quickly.
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