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      07-09-2014, 10:51 PM   #67
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Sadly that idea did not pan out. Still trying to see if any other options exist.
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      07-10-2014, 09:36 AM   #68
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I sure hope something comes along. After driving some of the newer 8 speeds in Audi and Jaguar, the slow shifting is very annoying. Both of those were ZF 8 speeds, no reason that I can see that the ZF 6 speed couldnt shift just as crisply as the zf 8 speed
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      07-10-2014, 12:10 PM   #69
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I sure hope something comes along. After driving some of the newer 8 speeds in Audi and Jaguar, the slow shifting is very annoying. Both of those were ZF 8 speeds, no reason that I can see that the ZF 6 speed couldnt shift just as crisply as the zf 8 speed
I just drove an x1 bmw loaner with the 8 speed it was awesome, and that little car moved with 241hp, needless to say I hated it over the 335d...
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      07-10-2014, 12:23 PM   #70
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I sure hope something comes along. After driving some of the newer 8 speeds in Audi and Jaguar, the slow shifting is very annoying. Both of those were ZF 8 speeds, no reason that I can see that the ZF 6 speed couldnt shift just as crisply as the zf 8 speed
You ain't kidding. My wife's 2010 TDI w/the DSG has a better sport mode than this car. It's depressing.....
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      07-10-2014, 12:43 PM   #71
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You ain't kidding. My wife's 2010 TDI w/the DSG has a better sport mode than this car. It's depressing.....
The DSG is the premier auto in the business, ask Porsche why they use it...
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      07-10-2014, 01:04 PM   #72
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well the DSG is basically a manual transmission, doesnt have much in common with our 6 speeds aside from shifting automatically. Its the same design more or less as the DCT for BMW, DPK for Porsche, etc.. The ZF 8 speed in the Audi and Jag (presumably shifts the same in the newer BMW ZF 8 speeds) is a traditional auto just like ours but it must be programmed for way more crisp shifting
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      07-11-2014, 09:11 PM   #73
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well the DSG is basically a manual transmission, doesnt have much in common with our 6 speeds aside from shifting automatically. Its the same design more or less as the DCT for BMW, DPK for Porsche, etc.. The ZF 8 speed in the Audi and Jag (presumably shifts the same in the newer BMW ZF 8 speeds) is a traditional auto just like ours but it must be programmed for way more crisp shifting
Exactly. And I know we will never get the shift speed of the DSG/DCT. But all I want is a Sport Mode that actually feels like it. The upshifts, downshifts, and revving in gear are all horrid when compared to the Jetta, a car with over 100 less hp. Like I stated before, it's depressing.....
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Lately I've been using manual mode more and more.

What really bothers me is the lack of smoothness, whether I have it on D, DS or M the car insists on jumping a lot on the first 3 gears.

I have 200.000km on the counter, maybe that's the issue?
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What really bothers me is the lack of smoothness, whether I have it on D, DS or M the car insists on jumping a lot on the first 3 gears.

I have 200.000km on the counter, maybe that's the issue?
Doubt the miles you racked up have anything to do with it. I have around 42.5k miles right now and I have the same issue. Here's my take:

D - worst throttle lag of the three (gets worse after adaptation settings are set)
DS - jumpy at start w/ or w/o JBD, no matter how you apply the throttle
M - still noticeable throttle lag but the setting I use most of the time

We just have to live with a shitty gearbox, that's all.
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I honestly dont think the box is the issue, it seems like its the programming. I havent noticed anything that I would label as the fault of the transmission, awkward TC lockups and jumpiness are usually the result of programming since the shift pressures and TC lockup command is coming from the computer. When its programmed right you wont even feel the TC lock up, like it is in higher gears, but for some reason 2nd and 3rd gear TC lockup can be really abrupt
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Sadly that idea did not pan out. Still trying to see if any other options exist.
Please, don't give up. If any of us can assist, I'm certain we will!
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      08-10-2014, 09:35 AM   #78
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Ill be very interested in a Flash for the 335d gearbox is anything ever comes up! What about using something from the new Alpina D3, which uses the same engine as the 335d's and a 6 speed box (I think) so that might be an idea????
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Ill be very interested in a Flash for the 335d gearbox is anything ever comes up! What about using something from the new Alpina D3, which uses the same engine as the 335d's and a 6 speed box (I think) so that might be an idea????
Unfortunately for us, the D3 uses a 4 pot and 8 speed gearbox.
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Unfortunately for us, the D3 uses a 4 pot and 8 speed gearbox.
No not the e90 d3 but the new f80 d3 that uses the twin turbo 3l inline 6! i swear its a 6 speed!!
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I agree with others. It is the programming. I have never had a transmission take forever on the torque converter lockup. I can only imagine that this programming is doing to the clutch packs.

The latest software does help a lot with the "slipping feel". However, my big Duramax diesel truck and my little TDI's with DSG feel superior to the transmission on my 335d. I think programming would help a LOT.

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      08-11-2014, 04:07 PM   #82
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I agree with others. It is the programming.
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100% The 6HP26 is used in many performance vehicles and only differs from 6HP19 used by gasser 335's in it's strength.

I'll try throwing a few more flashes at it to see if anything good sticks.
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      08-11-2014, 05:49 PM   #83
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What exactly would this flash to for the 335d, im getting my ecu tuned by Mega Speed and I believe they change the shift points, raise the limits it shifts etc...would my car still benefit from this alpine flash if they have it...
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      08-11-2014, 11:09 PM   #84
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What exactly would this flash to for the 335d, im getting my ecu tuned by Mega Speed and I believe they change the shift points, raise the limits it shifts etc...would my car still benefit from this alpine flash if they have it...
If/when it comes available you will be able to benefit from it. The only change i could see a DDE tune adjusting would be the requested torque (i think that's the parameter) during a shift.
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      09-15-2014, 04:49 PM   #85
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There's a local shop that claims they should be able to help with this; I might be able to put you two in touch, if that will help.
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A guy can fix our car to shift that fast but he want 1650 dollars, in my eyes not worth it
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I have a 2011 335d msport. I am taking it down for repairs shortly and would be willing to try some flashes and help out.
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