I this a good price for a 2004 Cooper S?

TMP · 06-20-2011, 01:47 PM

Been offered this as a part x - http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/2496850.htm

Still a bit too expensive to help me save max cash, but I am tempted....

F31-340i · 06-20-2011, 01:55 PM

Seems good value at under £6k, though it looks like its pre-facelift - the photos don't make it very clear, infact it look like they are trying to hide the fact.

Pre facelift should be worth less than post facelift cars with 170ps (change over was around July 2004 from memory), so make sure you're not comparing this to later cars.

TMP · 06-20-2011, 02:20 PM

Ahhh didn't realise there was a change in engine. Ours was a 2005 170 and awesome.

Yep, pics are not good..have asked for some more and shots of the interior.

davyk31 · 06-20-2011, 02:29 PM

Changover to the turbo engine from the supercharger was late 2006 / early 2007. The very earliest Minis were actually the best built and felt better, after that each facelift has cheapened the interior trim and feel.

TMP · 06-20-2011, 03:51 PM

just had a look on Parkers. Pre 2004 is a 163ps engine.

davyk31 · 06-20-2011, 04:10 PM

A pulley change can up that 163 to 200ish for little cash.

p1tse · 06-21-2011, 09:01 AM

was there a facelift on the supercharger models?

Vaheed1 · 06-21-2011, 09:28 AM

The Supercharged Mini had a minor face lift and then was replaced by the bigger Turbo model. The Turbo models can be had for around £9k now. I prefer the supercharged one - but it's very thirsty compared to the Turbo model.

davyk31 · 06-21-2011, 10:08 AM

Yes minor facelift about 05 from memory, don't think it changed the S much as it was really a new front bumper for the Coopers.

p1tse · 06-21-2011, 10:51 AM

the turbo version are suppose to better alround, but still relatively expensive

creepy coupe · 06-21-2011, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by p1tse

the turbo version are suppose to better alround, but still relatively expensive

The Wife's just bought one, 172 BJP + over boost, right little rocket ship.

davyk31 · 06-21-2011, 11:11 AM

Turbo version are a much nicer drive as loads more torque, the Supercharger one needs its neck wrung a bit to get the performance.

jonnydrama · 06-21-2011, 03:06 PM

I've had most flavours of mini (R53 pre facelift and post, R56 factory JCW) and other than an engine failure on the JCW they have been superb cars to own. That one doesn't look too bad value.

TMP · 06-21-2011, 04:49 PM

Cheers chaps....don't think this is enough to tempt me out of the 330

Pics sent over had works badges on it...erg

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F31-340i Colonel 156 Rep 2,475 Posts Drives: BMW 340i Touring Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: ... iTrader: (1)	Seems good value at under £6k, though it looks like its pre-facelift - the photos don't make it very clear, infact it look like they are trying to hide the fact. Pre facelift should be worth less than post facelift cars with 170ps (change over was around July 2004 from memory), so make sure you're not comparing this to later cars. __________________ 340i F31
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TMP Brigadier General 349 Rep 3,022 Posts Drives: M6 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Cheshire iTrader: (0)	Ahhh didn't realise there was a change in engine. Ours was a 2005 170 and awesome. Yep, pics are not good..have asked for some more and shots of the interior. __________________ M2 Arrived! Family 5er
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davyk31 Major General 1042 Rep 6,946 Posts Drives: Macan GTS :-) & F40 M135i Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Northern Ireland iTrader: (0)	Changover to the turbo engine from the supercharger was late 2006 / early 2007. The very earliest Minis were actually the best built and felt better, after that each facelift has cheapened the interior trim and feel.
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Vaheed1 Major 62 Rep 1,112 Posts Drives: E90 330d M Sport Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Newcastle Upon Tyne iTrader: (0)	The Supercharged Mini had a minor face lift and then was replaced by the bigger Turbo model. The Turbo models can be had for around £9k now. I prefer the supercharged one - but it's very thirsty compared to the Turbo model.
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