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      12-29-2014, 08:07 PM   #1
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C&D worst selling cars of 2014

Not sure why the M3 photo is on the cover slide??

http://www.caranddriver.com/flipbook...cars-of-2014#1

wtf? every car on the slide is on the list, except the m3 !
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Not sure why the M3 photo is on the cover slide??

http://www.caranddriver.com/flipbook...cars-of-2014#1

wtf? every car on the slide is on the list, except the m3 !
The editor was bored and wanted to read lots of hate mail.
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Not sure why the M3 photo is on the cover slide??

http://www.caranddriver.com/flipbook...cars-of-2014#1

wtf? every car on the slide is on the list, except the m3 !
Probably because they were hard pressed to even find a recent picture of a Z4
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Some of these cars aren't even mass produced... They're built to order, and these companies aren't in the business of mass producing very expensive super cars.


I think some of those other "regular" performance models are being built by demand as well. I'm sure more would buy the SS if it didn't look like total dogshit, although it isn't as bad in person... Not that it's a looker.
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The porsche 918 is on this list. This is beyond a moronic post, even from C&D. Honestly.
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The porsche 918 is on this list. This is beyond a moronic post, even from C&D. Honestly.
The preface to this list makes it pretty clear that you're not necessarily going to see bad cars on the list, just ones that are "bad" sellers. Lighten up.
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I'm surprised the gtr sold that few units.
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The preface to this list makes it pretty clear that you're not necessarily going to see bad cars on the list, just ones that are "bad" sellers. Lighten up.
Right, I read that, but what then is the point of the list? To list exclusive cars? Crappy non-sellers? Mixing the two is a terrible example of a garbage/meaningless stat, but watch someone pick it up and say it means something.......

I think any reputable mag would watch what they say a bit more, and this article indicates a move away from that for C&D. Hardly gonna ruin my year, but sad for what was once a decent read....
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Worst selling should be mass produced cars over a set amount rather than limited production models. Where is the 2014 GT3's I'm sure that is so poor selling that I cannot even get an allocation.
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Right, I read that, but what then is the point of the list? To list exclusive cars? Crappy non-sellers? Mixing the two is a terrible example of a garbage/meaningless stat, but watch someone pick it up and say it means something.......

I think any reputable mag would watch what they say a bit more, and this article indicates a move away from that for C&D. Hardly gonna ruin my year, but sad for what was once a decent read....
The list is actually interesting, but the title is a bit sensationalist. If they just said "fewest sold cars", there wouldn't be as much of a negative connotation as "worst". They did preface that these cars aren't necessarily on the list because they are bad, but the title is pure click/nerd rage bait. I mean, quite a few cars on there are the tits (918, R8).
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I'm surprised the gtr sold that few units.
From what I hear, there are quite a few GTRs just sitting on the lots unsold.
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The list is actually interesting, but the title is a bit sensationalist. If they just said "fewest sold cars", there wouldn't be as much of a negative connotation as "worst". They did preface that these cars aren't necessarily on the list because they are bad, but the title is pure click/nerd rage bait. I mean, quite a few cars on there are the tits (918, R8).
'Zactly. And as a nerd? I rage on man.

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Yah I've been waiting with baited breath for my order since September because this car is not selling LOL
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'Zactly. And as a nerd? I rage on man.

It's what the internet is for!
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I've personally seen 5 out of the 57 Porsche 918s. Feeling lucky!
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The editor was bored and wanted to read lots of hate mail.
I want to start a letter campaign- seriously c and d is becoming such a crap magazine.

such garbage like this slide show. i wanted to know what cars were worst selling, not cars that have limited production. 918 / r8 should not be on that list neither is the GTR.

SS, Z4- ok.

there was that other link on how many m badges are on the m3. As if this means bmw is whoring the M name. I mean, if more than half the badges are under the car, its just that the parts are M specific components and meant to denote bmw M manuf. part. NO NEWS THERE.

shouldn't it be great that there are so many unique parts? Like Chris Harris said, the M3/M4 is practically a new model. This justifies the $ over the 3/4 series. That should be a more interesting read.

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there was that other link on how many m badges are on the m3. As if this means bmw is whoring the M name. I mean, if more than half the badges are under the car, its just that the parts are M specific components and meant to denote bmw M manuf. part. NO NEWS THERE.

shouldn't it be great that there are so many unique parts? Like Chris Harris said, the M3/M4 is practically a new model. This justifies the $ over the 3/4 series. That should be a more interesting read.

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That was indeed a silly thread. The real interesting conversation regarding the whoring out of the M is how many of those badges can be found on base cars. You can take the least performance oriented vehicle in their line-up, and it can still come festooned with over a dozen VISIBLE badges.

The premium is definitely worth it for the M3/M4, it is actually a good car unlike the horrendous F3x, but it's really only like 50% different.
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Nothing new with respect to under the car badges as the prior gens had them as well…actually think it makes sense to do that to preclude the potential of knock-off parts later on down the road.

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That was indeed a silly thread. The real interesting conversation regarding the whoring out of the M is how many of those badges can be found on base cars. You can take the least performance oriented vehicle in their line-up, and it can still come festooned with over a dozen VISIBLE badges.

The premium is definitely worth it for the M3/M4, it is actually a good car unlike the horrendous F3x, but it's really only like 50% different.
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Nothing new with respect to under the car badges as the prior gens had them as well…actually think it makes sense to do that to preclude the potential of knock-off parts later on down the road.
I wasn't talking about under the car component badges, but rather the various exterior/interior badges. I concur it makes sense to label the M-unique parts.
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So where are the F8x sales numbers? Are they ever going to be released?
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Worst selling should be mass produced cars over a set amount rather than limited production models. Where is the 2014 GT3's I'm sure that is so poor selling that I cannot even get an allocation.
The GT3 limitation isn't because they are selling well (Im not saying they aren't), it has a lot to do with owners of the faulty motors returning them and ordering new cars and taking up all the allocations because of it.
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