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      01-25-2012, 06:43 AM   #133
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http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum....php?t=1754231

They also have tons of links and guide on setting up DIS/GT1

SSS = Progman, and if your car has been updated by ISTA, I wouldn't worry about messing with SSS/Progman, because it won't work with the car.
Awesome, thanks man. I'll check that out. I believe my car is updated to the latest software, or at least within the past year. If DIS will do basic diag then I am good with that!

My other question is whether there is a way to get english all the way through INPA. As of now, the first couple tiers of menus are in english, but then switch to German. I assume the OP has the same issue since his injector screen was all in German as well.

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Awesome, thanks man. I'll check that out. I believe my car is updated to the latest software, or at least within the past year. If DIS will do basic diag then I am good with that!

My other question is whether there is a way to get english all the way through INPA. As of now, the first couple tiers of menus are in english, but then switch to German. I assume the OP has the same issue since his injector screen was all in German as well.
There are a couple of older versions of INPA which are in full English floating around, but all the newer versions are German (like INPA versions that support the F series cars).

Since INPA is/was a factory tool, German was the primary language for all the INPA scripts.

DIS v57 should be able to handle diagnostics even if your car has been updated by ISTA.
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      01-28-2012, 12:03 AM   #136
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Vas, any luck with the DIY
This weekend looks promising to get this done. I've been super busy at work last week and on top of that I had a birthday...

I have a few things to iron out, and I think I can package the whole thing into a VMWare virtual machine for everyone to enjoy...
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This weekend looks promising to get this done. I've been super busy at work last week and on top of that I had a birthday...

I have a few things to iron out, and I think I can package the whole thing into a VMWare virtual machine for everyone to enjoy...
Thank you if you can do it! I have been at this for a couple of days with no success. I am going out today to get a new netbook
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My old school laptop 1998 IBM thinkpad that I bought off eBay doesn't seem to be compatible with INPA as it seems OS is way too old.
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Will this program work off a 32 bit computer? I want to buy a net book
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Will this program work off a 32 bit computer? I want to buy a net book
This actually is supposed to work better with 32-bit Windows. However, most netbooks run on Atom processors. I am not sure if it is fully compatible...

That's the whole point of the VMWare Virtual Machine I am trying to set up. It will work on any OS and any hardware for as long as you can run VMWare...
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This actually is supposed to work better with 32-bit Windows. However, most netbooks run on Atom processors. I am not sure if it is fully compatible...

That's the whole point of the VMWare Virtual Machine I am trying to set up. It will work on any OS and any hardware for as long as you can run VMWare...
I will wait for your DIY and then procede to get a laptop thats newer! Its going to be awesome.
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Bad news: the VMWare machine crashes when initializing the drivers for the USB D-CAN dongle. Most probably, I'll just package the apps, write the DIY and be done with it.


On the positive side: I think I've found a way to translate the MSD80 INPA file from German to English. That would be of insane help for everyone as there are a lot of other things you can do with it besides injector coding.

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Vasil,
Thanks for all the work your doing on this and providing the info for us! I'm really looking forward your DYI, because I just ordered a new injector to replace one that keeps giving me a misfire code occasionally. And then I have to shut down the car and re-start it in order for it to run smooth again. So it would be great if I could replace it and code it myself... But, if for some reason I can't code the injector... I see that your in the Chicago area?? Hint Hint
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. But, if for some reason I can't code the injector... I see that your in the Chicago area?? Hint Hint
Just replace the injector and send me a PM. I can help you code the injectors no problem.
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Just replace the injector and send me a PM. I can help you code the injectors no problem.
Sweet, thanks for the offer!
Once the injector shows up, I'll find the time to replace it and send you a PM before I do... Unless your DYI comes out before then and I get ambitious to try it. lol
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Bad news: the VMWare machine crashes when initializing the drivers for the USB D-CAN dongle. Most probably, I'll just package the apps, write the DIY and be done with it.


On the positive side: I think I've found a way to translate the MSD80 INPA file from German to English. That would be of insane help for everyone as there are a lot of other things you can do with it besides injector coding.

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I just ordered my 11.1 inch laptop which is coming this Monday. Hope you come through with this easy way to make it work for my laptop. The laptop is 64 bits running Windows 7
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I just ordered my 11.1 inch laptop which is coming this Monday. Hope you come through with this easy way to make it work for my laptop. The laptop is 64 bits running Windows 7
It won't work. You need 32-bit. Head over to the coding section and read the DIY. The software package you can get there includes INPA... what more do you need?
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It won't work. You need 32-bit. Head over to the coding section and read the DIY. The software package you can get there includes INPA... what more do you need?
No big deal. Needed a laptop anyway. Thanks for your concern. I read on the other forum it works with a 64 bit also.
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No big deal. Needed a laptop anyway. Thanks for your concern. I read on the other forum it works with a 64 bit also.
Trust me, it won't work on 64-bit.
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Trust me, it won't work on 64-bit.
This is directly quoted from the other forum from Dzenno



"INPA works on Windows 7 64-bit without issues on my machine. I even run it on a Mac where windows 7 64-bit is in a virtual machine. What you have to do is to right click on the installer and hit "Troubleshoot Compatibility", then go "Try Recommended Settings" (to let windows run it in proper compatibility mode), then hit "Start the Program" and it'll start it in Windows XP Service Pack 2 compatibility mode. You'll need to do this for each of the 3 INPA setup files provided in the download."

Is he lying?

Thats the problem, there is too much info going around and those that know what to do say refer to that thread, but in reality its not the easiest program to get up and running...I am sorry there are noobs like myself trying to get it working but its also very disappointing that people who already are familiar with it basically give no efforts to others to get it working, besides refer to the thread!..
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This is directly quoted from the other forum from Dzenno



"INPA works on Windows 7 64-bit without issues on my machine. I even run it on a Mac where windows 7 64-bit is in a virtual machine. What you have to do is to right click on the installer and hit "Troubleshoot Compatibility", then go "Try Recommended Settings" (to let windows run it in proper compatibility mode), then hit "Start the Program" and it'll start it in Windows XP Service Pack 2 compatibility mode. You'll need to do this for each of the 3 INPA setup files provided in the download."

Is he lying?
I don't know if he's lying or just doesn't know. INPA and even NCS Expert will install just fine under x64. However, running them is another story. A lot of the subroutines use legacy 16-bit programs which are not supported in 64-bit versions of Windows. While some functions may work, I think you are just asking for trouble down the road. For example, NCS will not run at all because it has some 16-bit code and I believe it also uses some EDIABAS libraries that are 16-bit.

In my 3 years of coding experience with this platform, I have not figured out a way to get everything to work properly on an x64 platform. If dzenno, of all people, has figured out a way... then, great. To avoid headaches, however, I still recommend using a 32-bit version of Windows. You can even run it inside a virtual machine if you don't want to reformat your laptop. Another good option is downloading Windows XP Mode from Microsoft.

Feel free to PM me if you have any questions beyond what's already covered on the forums and I'll be happy to help as I did with Vasil.
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I don't know if he's lying or just doesn't know. INPA and even NCS Expert will install just fine under x64. However, running them is another story. A lot of the subroutines use legacy 16-bit programs which are not supported in 64-bit versions of Windows. While some functions may work, I think you are just asking for trouble down the road. For example, NCS will not run at all because it has some 16-bit code and I believe it also uses some EDIABAS libraries that are 16-bit.

In my 3 years of coding experience with this platform, I have not figured out a way to get everything to work properly on an x64 platform. If dzenno, of all people, has figured out a way... then, great. To avoid headaches, however, I still recommend using a 32-bit version of Windows. You can even run it inside a virtual machine if you don't want to reformat your laptop. Another good option is downloading Windows XP Mode from Microsoft.

Feel free to PM me if you have any questions beyond what's already covered on the forums and I'll be happy to help as I did with Vasil.

Thanks man...
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