how bad is 330i SPORT package on snow?

BM2006i · 02-08-2006, 04:53 PM

Just wanted to get an idea. cause the brochure said "performance tires are not recommended for snow or ice"..
I know that ICE is definitely no good nomatter what kind of car/wheels you have.. but snow.. how bad is our car?

JSpira · 02-08-2006, 04:55 PM

It's fine - with 4 snow tires.

canuck2 · 02-08-2006, 05:03 PM

any car with dedicated summer tires will be slipping and sliding around like crazy..........traction will be at a minimum and any incline or corner will be an adventure......

poldim · 02-08-2006, 05:11 PM

I had my 162's on the car and couldnt get out of my parking spot in front of my aparment. That night I bought a $23 hydrolic jack along with a breaking bar and changed the wheels out into the lot. Then it was just like summer, except more fun when it snows...

Current wheels are winter wheels (info in sig).

dkizerian · 02-08-2006, 05:12 PM

just set aside some money and buy a set of winter wheels and snow tires...

mine were less than 1000 shipped, but that was for 16's the 330 needs 17's so they'll be just a little more.

I just built a set at tirerack.com...
dunlop runflat snow tires and a set of decent looking 17" wheels $1104 + shipping...

seevemonka · 02-08-2006, 05:56 PM

summer tires WILL NOT WORK ON SNOW.You will need a snow tire,or a good allseason tire.

0700700 · 02-08-2006, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by JSpira

It's fine - with 4 snow tires.

you could try with 1... i guarantee it will be more fun

jmatero · 02-08-2006, 08:56 PM

To answer the question posted........ "Useless".......without snows

dom1 · 02-08-2006, 08:56 PM

The obvious is that the tires are not good for snow/ice. So you need snow tires. Also remember that the suspension is lowered in the 330i SP, so you could end up plowing snow with your front bumper if you drive in deep snow. This is not a problem with the 330xi SP since it is not lowered.

E30M3Driver · 02-08-2006, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by dom1

This is not a problem with the 330xi SP since it is not lowered.

Well, true, it's not lowered, but it is still pretty dang low compared to say, an Expedition. It's all relative.

dom1 · 02-08-2006, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by E30M3Driver

Well, true, it's not lowered, but it is still pretty dang low compared to say, an Expedition. It's all relative.

Agree, just making the point of xi vs i with SP. It's pretty funny cause my 330xi with snow tires goes up icy hills better than my wife's Expedition 4x4 with all-seasons. May have something to do with the Ford weight of ~7600 pounds.

Armen52 · 02-09-2006, 12:53 AM

With the stock sport summer tires? Forget it man, unless you want to @$*(@ up your car or yourself. There is zero traction in the snow or ice.

Get some winter tires.

hotsand5 · 02-09-2006, 01:16 AM

I'm in Chicago, and anything over a 1/2" of snow and you would gladly hand over 2,000 dollars if need be to get snow tires put on at that moment. However, I have a beater that I drive when it snows, but Chicago is good at plowing all the streets as soon as it starts snowing, and its not bad driving the e90 then. Good luck getting out of your garage, or a parking lot without them though! Oh yeah, as soon as I took the car out of the delivery center in Germany (it was snowing at the time), I spun out of the holding garage and hit the curb. Luckly, I hit the back rear tire instead of the side, where I could have damaged the wheel. Do yourself a favor, and listen to the others when they tell you that you HAVE TO get another set of tires. I'd hate to see pictures of your wrecked car.

FlyingFinn · 02-09-2006, 02:05 AM

You need these and your car will be the ultimate driving machine. Continental Vinter Viking2. Studded for her pleasure

lux.sh · 02-09-2006, 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by BM2006i

how bad is our car?

with stock 162s/RFT tires?
I rather go jump off the cliff.

ldpantoja · 02-09-2006, 04:41 AM

Good question

Today I had to park like 5 minutes away from my job b/c I could not get into our parking lot. Unlike a lot of people on this site. My 330i was a sacrifice. I went downrange (Iraq) Almost died. So I started saving money. Made it back home and blew it on a 330i. I might as well enjoy it before I go back to Iraq. On my budget, a set of good winter tires means that I have to safe some more. I don't know if anybody here is or has been in the military. SGT's pay kind of sucks.

Well, anyway back to the question. 330i w/Sport Package sucks in the snow!!!!!

poldim · 02-09-2006, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by FlyingFinn

You need these and your car will be the ultimate driving machine. Continental Vinter Viking2. Studded for her pleasure

Thats hardcore....

RGRAY · 02-09-2006, 10:47 AM

How bad is 330i SPORT package on snow?

Wait a minute, regardless of tires.

Best in snow; all wheel drive.

Second best in snow; front wheel drive.

Worst in snow; rear wheel drive.

That's the facts.

All wheel drive is best in all adverse conditions.

ap1994 · 02-09-2006, 11:34 AM

I dont agree with your assesment. I think you need to include tires because most people who have AWD use all seasons as these are the cars that line the ditches on the side of the roads when it snows

. Those who have RWD use snows and drive to the conditions and laugh at the AWD's in the ditches.

For most areas id take RWD with snows so you can get the most performance out of the car.
Andy

jcoo085 · 02-09-2006, 11:46 AM

Horrible. And it doesn't matter weather you have sport package or not. Summer tyres have no grip on snow or ice.

I had a very scary experience with summer tires this winter...

RGRAY · 02-09-2006, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by ap1994

...I think you need to include tires because most people who have AWD use all seasons as these are the cars that line the ditches on the side of the roads when it snows

. Those who have RWD use snows and drive to the conditions and laugh at the AWD's in the ditches...

Sorry, you're wrong.

I would take an all wheel drive car with all season tires over a rear wheel drive car with snow tires ANY DAY.

The rear end of the BMW is just too light.

CirrusSR22 · 02-09-2006, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ap1994

I dont agree with your assesment. I think you need to include tires because most people who have AWD use all seasons as these are the cars that line the ditches on the side of the roads when it snows

. Those who have RWD use snows and drive to the conditions and laugh at the AWD's in the ditches.

For most areas id take RWD with snows so you can get the most performance out of the car.
Andy

I agree completely. IMO, 4WD or AWD is quite worthless in Metropolitan areas. For example, the snow & ice removal in Minneapolis is so good, I have NEVER felt the need for anything other than 2WD. The primary roads are rarely snow/ice covered for more than 12 hours.

Also, my 318ti with Blizzaks is signifcantly better than my old FWD Escort w/ all-seasons. Much better traction and controlability. Both of these cars sit quite low and in 10+ years of driving in Minnesota/Wisconsin winters, I have have never gotten stuck in the snow.

I don't think the sterotype that rear wheel is bad in the snow carries much weight anymore. If you compare an old american RWD beast (where the stigma came from) with a modern BMW, it a whole different ball game. Your looking at 50/50 balance, compared to maybe 70/30?? with those huge cast iron V8s.

Amazing modern independant rears, versus solid axles help keep the rear planted.

Traction control/stability control.

Modern tires.....

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BM2006i Second Lieutenant 96 Rep 272 Posts Drives: BMW Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: USA iTrader: (0)	how bad is 330i SPORT package on snow? Just wanted to get an idea. cause the brochure said "performance tires are not recommended for snow or ice".. I know that ICE is definitely no good nomatter what kind of car/wheels you have.. but snow.. how bad is our car?
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JSpira Freude am Fahren 334 Rep 5,254 Posts Drives: Fünfer, Dreier, + Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: New York, München, Wien iTrader: (1)	It's fine - with 4 snow tires. __________________ Freude am Fahren. Jonathan E90 2006 330xi E90 2006 325i E39 2003 530i Sport* E46 2000 328Ci* E36 1996 328iS* E36 1992 325i* E30 1991 318is E21 1982 320iS* E21 1979 320 (6-Zyl)* *retired Nominated: Most Contributing Member
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canuck2 Enlisted Member 1 Rep 47 Posts Drives: '015 F15 35ixDrive Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: SF Bay Area iTrader: (0) Garage List 2006 325xi [0.00] 1988 325ix [0.00]	any car with dedicated summer tires will be slipping and sliding around like crazy..........traction will be at a minimum and any incline or corner will be an adventure......
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poldim Vroom Vrrooooom 300 Rep 3,146 Posts Drives: 330i Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Bay Area, CA iTrader: (2) Garage List 2006 330i Sedan [0.00] 2003 GSX-R 600 [0.00]	I had my 162's on the car and couldnt get out of my parking spot in front of my aparment. That night I bought a $23 hydrolic jack along with a breaking bar and changed the wheels out into the lot. Then it was just like summer, except more fun when it snows... Current wheels are winter wheels (info in sig). __________________ -Dmitriy 06' BMW 330i & 03' Suzuki GSX-R600 SG \| Beige Dakota \| Poplar \|\| iDrive w/MP3 \| PP \| SP \| CWP \| PDC \| Comfort \| Shades \|\| 40% Tint \| Black Line Tail Lights \| Hardwired V1
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dkizerian Digital Ruler 2 Rep 166 Posts Drives: 325i AW/Terra Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Riverton Utah iTrader: (0)	just set aside some money and buy a set of winter wheels and snow tires... mine were less than 1000 shipped, but that was for 16's the 330 needs 17's so they'll be just a little more. I just built a set at tirerack.com... dunlop runflat snow tires and a set of decent looking 17" wheels $1104 + shipping...
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seevemonka Private 2 Rep 62 Posts Drives: 2006 bmw 325,black Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: mpls iTrader: (0)	summer tires WILL NOT WORK ON SNOW.You will need a snow tire,or a good allseason tire.
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jmatero Private First Class 41 Rep 124 Posts Drives: 2024 iX xDrive50 Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: San Jose, CA iTrader: (0) Garage List 2024 BMW iX xDRIVE50 [0.00]	To answer the question posted........ "Useless".......without snows
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dom1 Private First Class 10 Rep 163 Posts Drives: 2006 330xi Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Methuen, MA iTrader: (0)	The obvious is that the tires are not good for snow/ice. So you need snow tires. Also remember that the suspension is lowered in the 330i SP, so you could end up plowing snow with your front bumper if you drive in deep snow. This is not a problem with the 330xi SP since it is not lowered. __________________ 2006 330xi MB, Terra, Burl Walnut, Auto, PP, Nav, Heated Seats, SP w/18in 2002 Acura MDX - wife's ride 2000 Ford Expedition Eddie Bauer 4x4 - wife's SUV retired after 120K miles and lots of problems 1994 Pontiac Sunbird 4 cyl. - retired after 170K miles
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Armen52 Captain 33 Rep 663 Posts Drives: 2006 330i Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Los Angeles, CA iTrader: (0) Garage List 2006 330i [0.00]	With the stock sport summer tires? Forget it man, unless you want to @$*(@ up your car or yourself. There is zero traction in the snow or ice. Get some winter tires. __________________ E90 330i delivered 6/29/2005, ZSP/ZPP/ZCW/Step, Arctic/Gray/Walnut
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hotsand5 hotsand5 49 Rep 806 Posts Drives: 2006 BMW 330i 6spd Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: chicago iTrader: (0) Garage List 2006 330i [0.00]	I'm in Chicago, and anything over a 1/2" of snow and you would gladly hand over 2,000 dollars if need be to get snow tires put on at that moment. However, I have a beater that I drive when it snows, but Chicago is good at plowing all the streets as soon as it starts snowing, and its not bad driving the e90 then. Good luck getting out of your garage, or a parking lot without them though! Oh yeah, as soon as I took the car out of the delivery center in Germany (it was snowing at the time), I spun out of the holding garage and hit the curb. Luckly, I hit the back rear tire instead of the side, where I could have damaged the wheel. Do yourself a favor, and listen to the others when they tell you that you HAVE TO get another set of tires. I'd hate to see pictures of your wrecked car. __________________ -2006 BMW 330i-Sapphire Black- Tera Leather-Aluminum trim- 6spd manual- Sport- Premium- Cold- Navigation- Euro. delivery -2005 Yamaha Warrior 1700 102cu"
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ldpantoja Lieutenant 15 Rep 582 Posts Drives: 330i (E90) Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Germany iTrader: (0)	Good question Today I had to park like 5 minutes away from my job b/c I could not get into our parking lot. Unlike a lot of people on this site. My 330i was a sacrifice. I went downrange (Iraq) Almost died. So I started saving money. Made it back home and blew it on a 330i. I might as well enjoy it before I go back to Iraq. On my budget, a set of good winter tires means that I have to safe some more. I don't know if anybody here is or has been in the military. SGT's pay kind of sucks. Well, anyway back to the question. 330i w/Sport Package sucks in the snow!!!!! __________________ P's Little Ride 2006 330i / SG / SP / NAV
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RGRAY Captain 28 Rep 872 Posts Drives: 330xi SG/TERRA/STEP/SP/HS/CA Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Maryland iTrader: (0) Garage List 2006 BMW 330xi [0.00]	How bad is 330i SPORT package on snow? Wait a minute, regardless of tires. Best in snow; all wheel drive. Second best in snow; front wheel drive. Worst in snow; rear wheel drive. That's the facts. All wheel drive is best in all adverse conditions. __________________ 330xi/Sparkling Graphite/Terra/Walnut Burl/Steptronic/Sports Package/Heated Seats/Comfort Access...(blacklines, tint and a black grill). http://www.e90post.com/forums/e90gar...20TINT%20A.jpg
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ap1994 Private 7 Rep 93 Posts Drives: 2006 BMW 330i Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Middlebury, CT iTrader: (0)	I dont agree with your assesment. I think you need to include tires because most people who have AWD use all seasons as these are the cars that line the ditches on the side of the roads when it snows . Those who have RWD use snows and drive to the conditions and laugh at the AWD's in the ditches. For most areas id take RWD with snows so you can get the most performance out of the car. Andy __________________ 330i Titanium Silver, Black, Aluminum trim, Comfort Access, Heated Seats, Sport, Bluetooth, Nav, Sat prep
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jcoo085 Lieutenant 43 Rep 463 Posts Drives: E90 320d Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Stuttgart, Germany iTrader: (0) Garage List 2005 320d [0.00]	Horrible. And it doesn't matter weather you have sport package or not. Summer tyres have no grip on snow or ice. I had a very scary experience with summer tires this winter... __________________ E90 320d - Black Ext/Fluid Grey Int \| Steptronic \| Business Navigation \| PDC \| Sunroof \| Alarm Exterior Pictures \| Interior Pictures \| Video
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