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05-01-2011, 04:15 AM | #1 |
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my 328's been giving me the "service" light for a couple weeks now (at 26kmiles), and i have a service appointment schedule in 2 weeks for what I think is an oil change and other routine scheduled maintenance. but today, on the way home, the oil light comes on and says "+1QUART". I know BMW uses some special oil, so I don't wanna just go to the local walmart and get some random oil. does anyone know if i can just go to a dealer and get them to top it off for me? and since it's sunday and service departments are usually closed, do you guys think they'll still help me out? and if not, where can i get some bmw approved oil if not at the dealer?
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05-01-2011, 04:19 AM | #2 |
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if you're in the maintenance period, the dealership will top it off for free.
check your oil level through the dash and confirm that you're a quart low This page lists the approved oils for your car: http://www.bmwusa.com/Standard/Conte...ngineOils.aspx All of the listed oils should be available at just about any autozone or walmart or any other place selling oil
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05-01-2011, 04:41 AM | #3 |
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Even if they will top you up on a Sunday, buy a couple extra quarts from the parts department. I'm still amazed at all the posts of people frantically running to the dealer because they are low on fluids. I couldn't imagine owning a car and not having proper top-up fluids on-hand, at home.
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05-01-2011, 06:26 AM | #6 | |
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welcome to the N52, these engines like a little oil added between oil changes |
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05-01-2011, 06:34 AM | #7 | |
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What you propose, of course is common sense, you don't drive a car low on oil, you just go into the garage and get some, then top it off. I dunno which exactly is BMW approved, but it's pretty easy to get some Mobil 1 0 W 40 at Wal Mart. As far as the M cars go, I don't think Wal Mart carries the correct oil. My cousin said his M5 was like $16/qt or something crazy at the dealership. |
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05-01-2011, 03:00 PM | #9 | |
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That said, if the OP is looking for a top off (the dealer obviously can't him today if they are closed) and he has to drive any significant distance prior to tomorrow, then his local Autozone (or local equivalent) should have LL-01 approved oil. If they don't have it then a top off with an appropriate viscosity range synthetic oil is fine as long as he gets it changed soon. It is better to drive with non-LL-01 than to drive low. |
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05-01-2011, 05:26 PM | #10 |
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What I don't understand is how they'd be able to determine if it's an oil from the approved list. Is there some sort of signature for each oil? Also doesn't the oil degrade through it's work cycle? How could they even prove one way or the other?
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05-01-2011, 05:44 PM | #11 | |
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Pick up an extra bottle while you're at the dealership or buy 2 bottles of M1 0w-40 or Castrol 0w-30 (both LL01) while you're at the autoparts store. |
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05-01-2011, 09:09 PM | #12 | |
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I suppose it's technically possible, but that's way beyond the scope of any standard oil analysis lab. On another note, this would really never happen. A lubrication failure on a modern car using modern oil? It just doesnt happen. I bet you could use a non-synthetic, API SM or SN oil on any non-M E90 and the thing would still run fine for decades. Not with 15,000+ mile OCIs, but 7,500 or so. Last edited by CirrusSR22; 05-01-2011 at 09:15 PM.. |
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05-02-2011, 04:58 AM | #13 | |
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So when the engine gets a quart low, there is no need to panic. You can wait until the dealership or auto parts store is open to get the proper BMW-approved LL-01 oil. |
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05-02-2011, 10:58 AM | #14 | |
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Also I looked through the Owners manual and didn't see anything about LL-01 and the warranty... do you know where I could you please show me where I can find this? |
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05-02-2011, 03:06 PM | #15 |
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^Yeah I don't mean to be causing controversy but nowhere did I see anything about LL-01 being required.
The only "required" type language is: "Use only oils with an API rating of SM or higher." Which, if i'm not mistaken is a very old standard, and basically most modern oils exceed this standard. Please correct me if I'm wrong. |
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Excuse me General, but he asks where you can find these "warranty issues" regarding not using LL-01, and where it states you will not be covered if you don't use LL-01:
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05-02-2011, 09:59 PM | #18 |
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It is these kinds of idiots that argue for arguments sake that are the reason why I will never buy a used BMW.
If the BMW fluids were 5 times more expensive than the normal fluids or if the LL-01 oils were hard to find, then I could understand the reason to search out cheaper junk, but that isn't the case here. LL-01 oils can be had at nearly every auto supply store. In the US, for our cars, you need to use LL-01 oils in order to preserve your warranty. This isn't open to debate. If you don't believe it, bring your car to a dealership with a lubrication related issue and proudly tell them that you've been using Royal Poopie regularly and see if they'll do the repair under warranty. Are you willing to take a multi thousand dollar gamble just to have bragging rights that you're using designer oils? With that, I'm done dealing with the ignorant twins. |
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05-02-2011, 10:40 PM | #19 | |
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My question is WHERE does BMW state that using something other than would void your warranty? I'm not even trying to debate the validity, just trying to find out where BMW states this. |
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05-02-2011, 11:15 PM | #20 | |
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I'm about 1500 miles away from my owner's manual but it IS in there. It is also on the website like TrackRat posted. Get the online version of the owner's manual and search for "LL-01." It might also be in the warranty booklet. |
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05-02-2011, 11:26 PM | #21 | |
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ArenGh asked to see the info in print. It wasn't supplied. The General gets awfully loud for someone who cant supply any evidence. Regards. |
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05-03-2011, 10:17 AM | #22 | |
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Too many inconsistencies in the brain washed string of BMW-online-oil-myths= rat dodging. Last edited by Turkeybaster115; 05-03-2011 at 11:42 AM.. |
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