Procede v2 vs JB2R... Customer vs Customer *video*

CASHBY · 11-28-2007, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by M&M

You cannot take your specific car with 3" catless downpipes, and another DIFFERENT car with a different design of 2.5" DP's with catts and infer any anecdotal gains noticed might be respresentative for all DP's on all cars.

What about the fact that fuels/fuel levels etc may have been different when you guys raced after DP's. Also it depends very much on the rpm you start the race from. A car with 3" catless DP's may well show significant gains if you start racing from 2500rpm. I'm not saying that was the case, just there are lots of factors when 2 sets of different cars race.

I agree with you... but at the time we were the same minus the DP's which had a 2 inch head on them.

Both Sedans, both 6speed, i had 32lbs each without tires 19inch wheels, he had 18inch wheels, im fully loaded with every option, he is baseline, both procede 1.47, both exhaust (if you want to call mine an exhaust)...and both started same gear at same exact speed!

i mean really it can get any better on a comparsent to see if DP's work or not than that..

my arguement is DP's help, not that sherwin beat so and so because of DP's

Sherwin beats people because his car is a monster with v2.0 and his mods and power...

Walked U · 11-28-2007, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by CEA 3

I agree with you... but at the time we were the same minus the DP's which had a 2 inch head on them.

Both Sedans, both 6speed, i had 32lbs each without tires 19inch wheels, he had 18inch wheels, im fully loaded with every option, he is baseline, both procede 1.47, both exhaust (if you want to call mine an exhaust)...and both started same gear at same exact speed!

i mean really it can get any better on a comparsent to see if DP's work or not than that..

my arguement is DP's help, not that sherwin beat so and so because of DP's

Sherwin beats people because his car is a monster with v2.0 and his mods and power...

Lol i dont have a basline model...

Im fully loaded without nav. You suck hahahahah

CASHBY · 11-28-2007, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Walked U

Lol i dont have a basline model...

Im fully loaded without nav. You suck hahahahah

ahahahah sorry man, ahahah. not basline but no nav.. my bad mang!

Walked U · 11-28-2007, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by CEA 3

ahahahah sorry man, ahahah. not basline but no nav.. my bad mang!

Hahahahaha np

lawdude · 11-28-2007, 03:09 PM

Sounds like there's just no way to settle the battle of the tuners. Looks like SSTT, AA, Black Box and just about everybody else are bench warmers.

HyperM3 · 11-28-2007, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by lawdude

Sounds like there's just no way to settle the battle of the tuners. Looks like SSTT, AA, Black Box and just about everybody else are bench warmers.

*cough* not for long *cough*

M&M · 11-28-2007, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by CEA 3

my arguement is DP's help, not that sherwin beat so and so because of DP's...

Fair enough. But maybe your brand of DP with your design works. MAybe a DP with a different design and with catts may not be as good. I'm not trying to knock any DP manufacturers BTW. Just a thought.

sambonator · 11-28-2007, 03:18 PM

Hey Sherwin let me know next time you run. PM me please!

I'd like to see how my JBS2R auto runs against you and others

Terry335 · 11-28-2007, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by leftcoastman

Terry disagrees with the data and the conclusion of the person who did the test, but that's another story.

I disagree with your interpretation of the data, which is clearly as biased as you think mine is.

Driver72 · 11-28-2007, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by MrRipfrog

I will link up with you guys sometime when I get V2 in. I am completely stock except for the Procede. I think that will really show what the "tune only" does vs others with mods. Might be a good baseline comparison and what the extra mods actually do for a car.

Don't know if you boys remember, but I was part of the LA dyno day with shiv and I was the one where he put a few gallons of race gas into my tank as my car was running lower HP than everyone else.

I remember you.
Your car was the car immediately before mine.
You have a coupe.
And you had a bad batch of Mobil gas.

Stock you were like 250 rwhp right?
You got like 303 rwhp with the PROcede on the bad batch of gas and with a gallon or so 100 Octane in it jumped to like 315 right away.

Good to hear you are still around.

deck · 11-28-2007, 03:30 PM

i love this thread. went to bed with 3 replys, woke up to 8 pages

let me know, adam and i ran last night and were just about exactly the same. So if other needs some comparing, i am pretty damn close to stock

leftcoastman · 11-28-2007, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Terry335

I disagree with your interpretation of the data, which is clearly as biased as you think mine is.

I don't stand to make a dime if Shiv sells another unit. Do you stand to lose anything now that we've shown that V2.02 is better than the product that you sell?

But ignore my interpretation, rely on the interpretation of the person who did the original test.

Terry335 · 11-28-2007, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by deck

i love this thread. went to bed with 3 replys, woke up to 8 pages

let me know, adam and i ran last night and were just about exactly the same. So if other needs some comparing, i am pretty damn close to stock

Hey Deck! Get that new tune yet?? I'm curious to see how well you do.

down4it · 11-28-2007, 03:34 PM

I want to see what my car does against Walked U's car... or any car for that matter but he seems to have as many mods as i do so it sounds like a good comparison i think...

Terry335 · 11-28-2007, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by leftcoastman

I don't stand to make a dime if Shiv sells another unit. Do you stand to lose anything now that we've shown that V2.02 is better than the product that you sell?

But ignore my interpretation, rely on the interpretation of the person who did the original test.

I personally think your downpipe hatred is centered around your own dyno numbers and the need to validate them.

As to whether v2.02 is better or worse than the JB2R, it isn't really for me to decide. I think when you look at all the factors including performance, reliability, cost, availability, and support, that the JB2(R) is very competitive. You can pick on just the performance aspect with this one race, but I could point to say another single event (like maxboosts track times) and draw a different conclusion. Isn't it best to wait for a larger sample of results first?

Terry335 · 11-28-2007, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by down4it

I want to see what my car does against Walked U's car... or any car for that matter but he seems to have as many mods as i do so it sounds like a good comparison i think...

That would be a good race, same mods. Both have intakes too!

leftcoastman · 11-28-2007, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Terry335

I personally think your downpipe hatred is centered around your own dyno numbers and the need to validate them.

Terry - you are wrong.

I have the Ultimate Racing catted downpipes on my car.

Terry335 · 11-28-2007, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by leftcoastman

Terry - you are wrong.

I have the Ultimate Racing catted downpipes on my car.

Exactly... the same ones that don't help horsepower, right?

lawdude · 11-28-2007, 03:53 PM

Last word contest in progress.

Terry335 · 11-28-2007, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by lawdude

Last word contest in progress.

I think we both just lost.

down4it · 11-28-2007, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Terry335

I think we both just lost.

I win! Byahhhhhh!

seriously though if anyone in the area wants to do a few runs for fun hit me up and let me know... Last time i ran with Terry and AB Tek i was pushin 10.6psi max cause of a boost leak... now that everything is all working right i want to see if i can hang

MspiredM3 · 11-28-2007, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by deck

i love this thread. went to bed with 3 replys, woke up to 8 pages

let me know, adam and i ran last night and were just about exactly the same. So if other needs some comparing, i am pretty damn close to stock

You said it, not me....

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lawdude Colonel 94 Rep 2,339 Posts Drives: 335i ZPP ZSP TiAg MT Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Georgia iTrader: (1)	Sounds like there's just no way to settle the battle of the tuners. Looks like SSTT, AA, Black Box and just about everybody else are bench warmers.
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lawdude Colonel 94 Rep 2,339 Posts Drives: 335i ZPP ZSP TiAg MT Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Georgia iTrader: (1)	Last word contest in progress.
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