getting tired of ride quality.

opaque18 · 08-18-2011, 03:40 PM

so about a year ago i put h&r sport springs on my 06 330i. looks wise great. but the ride is horrible.

since i already have the springs should i replace the shocks with koni fsd?
or would i have to buy the whole kit?

i might just say f it and put back factory springs back in. but its so high!

MaverickBMW · 08-18-2011, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by opaque18

so about a year ago i put h&r sport springs on my 06 330i. looks wise great. but the ride is horrible.

since i already have the springs should i replace the shocks with koni fsd?
or would i have to buy the whole kit?

i might just say f it and put back factory springs back in. but its so high!

Shocks are probably at the end of their life with the H&R. I don't think the factory springs will solve the problem

BBS · 08-18-2011, 05:06 PM

how many miles did you put on the shocks? I vote koni yellows over fsd!

Sean@PYSpeed.com · 08-18-2011, 05:07 PM

Definitely time for some coilovers. Ever put KW into consideration?

opaque18 · 08-20-2011, 09:46 AM

thanks guys i guess its time to get some new shocks. i would love to get coilovers just not in my budget at the moment.. =(

lakefront · 08-20-2011, 02:48 PM

You need some aftermarket shocks that can handle the shorter, stiffer H&R springs. Koni Yellows or FSD would be perfect.

SIKH335 · 08-20-2011, 09:36 PM

Koni Yellows not the FSD

Paulo IRL · 08-21-2011, 01:55 PM

Why Koni yellow's an not fsd guy's???

Fraggy · 08-21-2011, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Paulo IRL

Why Koni yellow's an not fsd guy's???

FSDs are not for lowered springs or stiff springs. Some ppl differ. Yellows can be adjusted to suit the comfort level/handling you desire.

tibra1 · 08-21-2011, 10:44 PM

Swifts springs + thrust sheets paired w ASTs, Konis, or KWs will give u great performance with a good ride

hugus311 · 08-22-2011, 01:14 AM

OP do you have zsp in your 330i

opaque18 · 08-23-2011, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by hugus311

OP do you have zsp in your 330i

no just base model.

hugus311 · 08-24-2011, 03:14 AM

shocks are probably shot. i would new shocks and no runflats

Yoko22R · 08-24-2011, 03:35 AM

yellows are AMAZING... I got h&r sports with koni yellows and love it. Can't go wrong.

SV Concepts · 08-25-2011, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Fraggy

FSDs are not for lowered springs or stiff springs. Some ppl differ. Yellows can be adjusted to suit the comfort level/handling you desire.

FSD's are actually designed to work with Eibach Pro-Kit. Koni and Eibach partnered on them.

However, you are right, Yellow at the softest setting will be much more appropriate for someone seeking a comfortable ride.

Also, don't get coil overs as some others have suggested - they will not help your quest for comfort at all.

Call us up we'll make sure to get you squared away and happy

HP Autosport · 08-26-2011, 04:11 AM

Koni Yellows are the way to go. You can install and forget, but if you ever want to adjust them, you have that option available to you.

If you prefer the external adjustable rear shocks, they are available through us. The standard Koni Yellow is only standard adjustable, you will have to remove the rear shocks from the vehicle to adjust them.

HighlandPete · 08-26-2011, 06:44 AM

Interesting that the yellows get the positive vote, compared to the FSD.

Are we really comparing 'like for like' and not 'apples and pears' here? I researched this subject before fitting the FSD, to keep or even improve the primary ride quality, while getting a better secondary ride quality.

Someone explain how a yellow, on a soft setting, is a better damper (shock) and gives a better primary ride as well, compared to the FSD.

Not saying it is wrong, as damping feel is very personal like tire choice, just what's the reasoning and rational for the Yellow?

HighlandPete

Drivaar · 08-26-2011, 07:13 AM

opaque18: I can highly recommend the FSDs, as you've seen on the other thread...

HighlandPete: You have to keep in mind that many of the forum members are biased towards lowering, sharper ride, and less comfort...

Also, the Tirerack review does compare the FSDs with Yellow on full-soft:
http://www.tirerack.com/suspension/tests/koni_fsd_b.jsp

The FSDs were more comfy AND performed better on the track! Not sure why anyone would buy yellows to put on full-soft setting, aside from ride height.

HighlandPete · 08-26-2011, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Drivaar

HighlandPete: You have to keep in mind that many of the forum members are biased towards lowering, sharper ride, and less comfort...

Also, the Tirerack review does compare the FSDs with Yellow on full-soft:

The FSDs were more comfy AND performed better on the track! Not sure why anyone would buy yellows to put on full-soft setting, aside from ride height.

The Tirerack test was one of the key reports I read back in 2007, when looking to get FSDs.

Personally I don't think too many really get what the FSD is about, it isn't really a sport damper in the conventional sense. It's a clever design to give a better ride quality, without sacrificing the handling. The fact it can separate the two functions, can mean damper valving to improve the handling in some applications, that is a bonus.

But from my perspective, once you go for lowering, you start compromising the main purpose of the FSD, as reduced suspension travel, higher spring rates are eroding the working parameters and benefits of the FSD, and other damper designs come more into play with those changed and more sport influenced parameters. Originally Koni didn't recommend FSDs with any other spring combination than OEM. Since changed, but at what compromise?

Simply put, IMO, the FSD sits in a different market sector, than the traditional sport damper.

HighlandPete

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opaque18 Private First Class 13 Rep 147 Posts Drives: 2006 jb 330i Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: cincinnati iTrader: (0)	getting tired of ride quality. so about a year ago i put h&r sport springs on my 06 330i. looks wise great. but the ride is horrible. since i already have the springs should i replace the shocks with koni fsd? or would i have to buy the whole kit? i might just say f it and put back factory springs back in. but its so high! __________________ 2006 e90 JB 330i/ 19" Miro Type 111 Matte black \| Matte Black Grill \|H&R Sport springs \| BMS Power Box \| AFE Cold Air Intake Stage 2 \|
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BBS Second Lieutenant 3 Rep 268 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Philadelphia, PA iTrader: (5)	how many miles did you put on the shocks? I vote koni yellows over fsd! __________________ LM's on the evo and LM's on the 3er
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opaque18 Private First Class 13 Rep 147 Posts Drives: 2006 jb 330i Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: cincinnati iTrader: (0)	thanks guys i guess its time to get some new shocks. i would love to get coilovers just not in my budget at the moment.. =( __________________ 2006 e90 JB 330i/ 19" Miro Type 111 Matte black \| Matte Black Grill \|H&R Sport springs \| BMS Power Box \| AFE Cold Air Intake Stage 2 \|
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lakefront Captain 561 Rep 755 Posts Drives: 2017 Macan GTS Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: SE Wisconsin iTrader: (2)	You need some aftermarket shocks that can handle the shorter, stiffer H&R springs. Koni Yellows or FSD would be perfect.
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Paulo IRL Paulo IRL 8 Rep 137 Posts Drives: BMW E90 320d Sport Join Date: May 2010 Location: Ireland South East. iTrader: (1) Garage List 2001 BMW M3 [0.00]	Why Koni yellow's an not fsd guy's???
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tibra1 Banned 127 Rep 6,773 Posts Drives: 2011 ZCP M3 - 2007 335i crashd Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: NYC iTrader: (4)	Swifts springs + thrust sheets paired w ASTs, Konis, or KWs will give u great performance with a good ride
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hugus311 Titanium silver + Sport + Premium 32 Rep 662 Posts Drives: 2006 330i (E90) Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: west covina 626 iTrader: (6)	OP do you have zsp in your 330i
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hugus311 Titanium silver + Sport + Premium 32 Rep 662 Posts Drives: 2006 330i (E90) Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: west covina 626 iTrader: (6)	shocks are probably shot. i would new shocks and no runflats
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Yoko22R Second Lieutenant 184 Rep 258 Posts Drives: E90 M3 Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Irvine, CA iTrader: (2) Garage List 2008 BMW M3 [0.00]	yellows are AMAZING... I got h&r sports with koni yellows and love it. Can't go wrong.
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HighlandPete Lieutenant General 6659 Rep 15,858 Posts Drives: BMW F11 535i Touring Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Scotland, Highland Region iTrader: (0)	Interesting that the yellows get the positive vote, compared to the FSD. Are we really comparing 'like for like' and not 'apples and pears' here? I researched this subject before fitting the FSD, to keep or even improve the primary ride quality, while getting a better secondary ride quality. Someone explain how a yellow, on a soft setting, is a better damper (shock) and gives a better primary ride as well, compared to the FSD. Not saying it is wrong, as damping feel is very personal like tire choice, just what's the reasoning and rational for the Yellow? HighlandPete
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Drivaar Lieutenant 73 Rep 463 Posts Drives: BMW Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Earth iTrader: (0)	opaque18: I can highly recommend the FSDs, as you've seen on the other thread... HighlandPete: You have to keep in mind that many of the forum members are biased towards lowering, sharper ride, and less comfort... Also, the Tirerack review does compare the FSDs with Yellow on full-soft: http://www.tirerack.com/suspension/tests/koni_fsd_b.jsp The FSDs were more comfy AND performed better on the track! Not sure why anyone would buy yellows to put on full-soft setting, aside from ride height.
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