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View Poll Results: What E90/91 do you have
318i 3 0.78%
320i 12 3.13%
323i 3 0.78%
325i/xi 127 33.16%
330i/xi 170 44.39%
318d 3 0.78%
320d 26 6.79%
330d/xd 11 2.87%
Another E90/91 model that isn't mentioned 5 1.31%
Don't have an E90/91, but will order soon 16 4.18%
Don't have an E90/91. Just here because it's a cool place 7 1.83%
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      02-27-2006, 01:47 AM   #23
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The e90 exists in 318 form somewhere in the world?
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      02-27-2006, 02:01 AM   #24
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At the moment, the 320d is winning WHoohooo....

I'm sure the 330i will come in tops tho....
I'm suprised that the 330 has so many. I see way more 325's

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      02-27-2006, 04:37 AM   #25
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I would imagine there would be a higher proportion of 320d's in the UK. Every single E90/E91 I have seen so far has been one.
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      02-27-2006, 05:06 AM   #26
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Thanks! Very interesting numbers. For the I's, the 325 is a better seller by far (71% vs. 29% of the total # of I's sold) but for the XI's the 325 is still the better seller but not by as wide a margin. (60% vs. 40%). Overall, the 325 outsells the 330 by more than 2 to 1 (69% vs 31% of total # sold). I think that's typically been the sales difference in the past also.

It makes sense. When I bought mine the dealer even admitted the power difference was so minimal most will go with the 325. In the past the 325 had a 4 banger and then I would have opted for the 330.
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      02-27-2006, 05:57 AM   #27
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I'm suprised that the 330 has so many. I see way more 325's

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make sense because chances are(does not apply to everyone), people who bought 330i were craving more performance, thus more enthusiastic about cars. And thats why more 330i owners are present in these forums.

Just like how there are more manual transmission owners active in performance forums than automatic transmission owners. Not the case here in E90POST, but other forums in general.

This is just a generalization guys, don't get serious on me.
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      02-27-2006, 06:23 AM   #28
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So I am the only one (up till now) with a 318d (ordered, coming april 8th)... Cool.

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PS ksfrogman: yes, they do in Europe. A 318d and 318i.
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      02-27-2006, 07:15 AM   #29
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Can't we make this poll a sticky? I came across it yesterday and had never seen it despite spending hours on here over the last two months, so I bumped it to the top and there have been over 100 more votes already...

Yes, the 318 does exist as a petrol & a diesel, but we try not to talk about it too much, bit of an embarassment really, j/k
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      02-27-2006, 07:42 AM   #30
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Yes, the 318 does exist as a petrol & a diesel, but we try not to talk about it too much, bit of an embarassment really, j/k
Thanks, now I feel really welcome....

To elaborate on that...

Sure, i would have liked the 330d or the 320d as my new car, except when you know the prices we have to pay for those cars here in Holland , I can say they are beyond my reach. My new 318d Exec. is 42000 EUR (roughly 54000 USD), the new 320d basic is 42000 and the 330d 51000 (65000 USD). Not strange if you see what the taxes on those cars are ( roughly 65%!!). So I could have chosen the 320d but I i'd rather have a 318d with extras (executive, design line) then a basic 320d. I think the 318d is a good car with acceptable performance, moreso if you compare it to the avarage car here. just my 2cts...
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      02-27-2006, 07:51 AM   #31
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      02-27-2006, 07:56 AM   #32
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I know. It was just me getting frustrated (again) by taxes in Holand....
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      02-27-2006, 08:45 AM   #33
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The 318d here in France (basic model, no options) is €28,900 incl. all taxes - how about in the Netherlands?
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      02-27-2006, 08:55 AM   #34
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The 318d here in France (basic model, no options) is €28,900 incl. all taxes - how about in the Netherlands?
Hold your seat: € 38,400 incl. taxes. (= €23,500 net price + €10,400 BPM + €4,500 VAT).
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      02-27-2006, 09:07 AM   #35
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318i ES was the only option for me.

If we in the UK had the chance to pay what others pay worldwide, I would have gone for the 330i!

Base 318i (not even the ES and without any extras) starts at about $35000. This is before the massive costs of tax, insurance, and even putting some squirt in to run the thing!

I find the forum a real eye-opener as to how much the UK is such a rip-off. We even pay more for many things than the rest of Europe. There are even toll roads now on top of all the other taxes.

I wouldn't mind if the wages balanced things out.

Well said Paul330d - all E90's are great!
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      02-27-2006, 09:16 AM   #36
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Hold your seat: € 38,400 incl. taxes. (= €23,500 net price + €10,400 BPM + €4,500 VAT).
Good grief!!! What the hell is BPM?! FYI (sorry, this is going to hurt), the basic 330d here is €39,000 incl. taxes (basically just VAT) - just €600 more than a 318d in Holland!

I agree the UK is very expensive for motorists. I always try to fill up my tank before I arrive & then drive as economically as I can, so as not to have to pay your petrol prices

It's all relative, of course: in the US, petrol costs about 2 cents a gallon and a 330i is about $500
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318i, basic model, in Holand €33,800 incl. taxes(€21,400 netprice+€8,100BPM+€4,100VAT). Which is roughly $43,000...
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I can guess that in the US 330 petrol would come top, cos you guys don't have to pay so much tax on your petrol (gas), and you are genrallymore affluent.

For us poor guys in the UK pay a fair old whack for our fuel, and I would expect, and see, that the 320d (tractor) would be the biggest seller in the UK

BTW I have ordered a 325 SE, and this is only on the basis that my company would be paying about half of my fuel costs. Otherwise I would have to considered a 320d (tractor) myself.
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What the hell is BPM?!
BPM is a tax you have to pay in Holland when you buy a new car or motorcycle. It is roughly about 45% of the net price. VAT (BTW as it is called in Holland) is 19%.

To add to the costs of cars in Holland:
Diesel is about €1 per liter ($1.28)
Roadtax € 1100 a year ($1,400)

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BPM is roughly about 45% of the net price. VAT (BTW as it is called in Holland) is 19%.
I had no idea, that's terrible!

And you can bet that once Brussels decides we all have to have a single pan-European tax system, the base rates will be those of the most expensive country :mad:

Amazingly (and somewhat inexplicably), the French govt. suddenly abolished road tax about 5 years ago and this is what pushed me to buy my 530d. My new 330d has a "fiscal horsepower" of 15, meaning road tax would have cost me about €600 a year. Phew!
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imo it's not just the fuel cost. CO2 emissions come into it to determine how much tax you pay if it's a company car.

I agree that most E90s in the UK will be 320d or 330d for these reasons.

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And you can bet that once Brussels decides we all have to have a single pan-European tax system, the base rates will be those of the most expensive country :mad:
Paul,

I don't think so, IMHO they wil be lower than here in the NL.

Discussions here in Holland are about the way taxes are paid and, waiting on brussels, plans are that road tax and BPM will be changed to a new tax system based on use (variable: depending on if you are in major suburban area, using your car in rush hours, usage on busy roads etc.). I can't imagine them getting higher....

(PS Maybe this part of the thread regarding costs can/should be placed in another new thread?)
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I kind of expected this though, being more of an entheusiast site. You have to wonder how many people are buying the 325i's just so they can say they drive a BMW, and not for appreciating what the car is capable of/what is behind it.
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