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      12-07-2014, 06:05 PM   #1
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Seal and THEN wax?

Hey guys

Seeing some posts and videos claiming you can put wax on top of a sealant. Wouldn't that just rub the sealant off? Example:


So you would:

wash
clay
wash
sealant
let sealant sit. < for how long??
wax
buff off wax

No?
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      12-07-2014, 06:18 PM   #2
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wash
clay
wash
sealant
let sealant sit. < for how long??
wax
buff off wax

No?
if it's an acrylic sealant you are suppose to let it cure. (really depends on what the manufacturer says) BUT i let it cure for about 30min if i'm doing it for a client, but on my car i'd do it for maybe 1-2 hours (probably not necessary) and then do a second coat and let that cure for about 4 hrs.

most new sealants adhere to the paint very quickly and well so cure times are not that long. and the thinner the coat the better for sealants!
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i don't think he's talking about the opticoat type sealants. i believe he's asking about polymer sealants. think about what you asked. if a sealant could be rubbed off that easily, then what good is the sealant? polymer sealants chemically bond to the clear coat. you most certainly can add wax on top of a sealant.
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i don't think he's talking about the opticoat type sealants. i believe he's asking about polymer sealants. think about what you asked. if a sealant could be rubbed off that easily, then what good is the sealant? polymer sealants chemically bond to the clear coat. you most certainly can add wax on top of a sealant.
Thanks. So something like this?

Wash
Dry
Clay
Wash
Dry
Seal
Cure..?
Buff off sealant?
Wax then buff off wax?

Forgot the link http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B004...AC_SX110_SY165
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Most sealants have a cure time of at least 24 hours before you'll want to top them off with another coat or a coat of wax.
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The sealant needs to set before waxing. Some sealants are ready to be waxed soon after, others like Blackfire wet diamond need to sit for a period of time. Usually the product will tell you. I normally wait 12-24hrs before applying wax on top if I do it depending on the time frame for the detail
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Here is a guide that will answer many of your questions:

http://www.detailedimage.com/Auto-Detailing-Guide/
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I've seen some of the newer sealants specifically prohibit waxing on top. For most polymer sealants I don't think they mention it and it's fine. I would say to follow the cure time directed then be okay with waxing - I used Menzerna Powerlock, gave it 24 hours then waxed and I've done several coats since (after most washes).
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I've seen some of the newer sealants specifically prohibit waxing on top. For most polymer sealants I don't think they mention it and it's fine. I would say to follow the cure time directed then be okay with waxing - I used Menzerna Powerlock, gave it 24 hours then waxed and I've done several coats since (after most washes).
Yup, seen this too.

OP look into sonax polymer net shield or menzerna powerlock.

I've had good results with chemical guys jet seal but some of the higher level weekend detailers on here said the jet seal is a no-no lol.
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Lots of good replies here, thank you guys.
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