What is meant as "illegal modification" in HK+ extra police enforcement of speeding

kenken · 11-05-2010, 03:02 AM

Laser - Road block, I have a V1 but there was not enough time as I already hard brake when the cars in-font of me hard brake…

Also spoke to another lawyer friend that he said that normally it really doesn’t matter how fast you were going or how many times you are above the speed limit…. According to him the max limit set is above 45km/h which is 10points or they can also charge you for illegal racing which is 10points….. The judges have a certain guidelines but it also depends on the season or mood of the judge…..

In my case I was above the speed limit and was actually charged for illegal street racing (no matter what for the guidelines for first time offender is 3months + Fine or inc jail time if anyone was injured or harmed in the process) but was subsequently dropped to just speeding over 45/km (section 41 5B) as written on my charge form….

Anyway, it’s over and as I said before becareful while driving now, esp. when you don’t have enough points…. It sucks for me as I have been waiting and hunting for a new car and I just collected it on Monday when my lisc was revoked on Wednesday. Now I gotta wait 1 year to retake my lisc (witht hat ugly p plate) then I can play with my toy which is no longer new….

ct087ct087 · 11-05-2010, 06:15 AM

do you mean you need to retake the driving license? and carry the P plate for a year after?

335 Freak · 11-05-2010, 10:07 AM

Ken Ken,

Sorry to hear this very bad news, Brother!!! I really don't know what to say and perhaps, I should either pray for myself or start looking for a 2,000cc family 7 seat car and turning to be a mid age driver like most of those family man on the road....with a Sticker + Personalized License Number as "I love my Family"........Not sure if it is time to give up my Gangster looking 335 E92....huh!

kenken · 11-05-2010, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by ct087ct087

do you mean you need to retake the driving license? and carry the P plate for a year after?

according to the infomation given - yes.....

kenken · 11-05-2010, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by 335 Freak

Ken Ken,

Sorry to hear this very bad news, Brother!!! I really don't know what to say and perhaps, I should either pray for myself or start looking for a 2,000cc family 7 seat car and turning to be a mid age driver like most of those family man on the road....with a Sticker + Personalized License Number as "I love my Family"........Not sure if time to give my Gangster looking 335 E92....huh!

No need to go to so drastic measure Bro! Hey bro just dont step on the pedal till everything have cooled down!

Be very careful when driving now!

Suri_ · 11-05-2010, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by 335 Freak

Ken Ken,

Sorry to hear this very bad news, Brother!!! I really don't know what to say and perhaps, I should either pray for myself or start looking for a 2,000cc family 7 seat car and turning to be a mid age driver like most of those family man on the road....with a Sticker + Personalized License Number as "I love my Family"........Not sure if time to give my Gangster looking 335 E92....huh!

I cannot imagine you with a 2,000cc family 7 seater............................................ .

335 Freak · 11-06-2010, 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Ken Ken

No need to go to so drastic measure Bro! Hey bro just dont step on the pedal till everything have cooled down!

Be very careful when driving now!

Feel a bit touching for yr friendly warning!! Indeed, I feel a bit of scare.....as you drove my ride a few times, it is frankly almost impossible to drive within legal speedlimit and many times, my speeding occurence is somewhat unintentional which I don't even know I've speeding until I look at my dometer!! That's why 2,000cc 7 seater idea popped up upon comprehended how hard to drive slow with this monster driving machine!

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Originally Posted by Suri_

I cannot imagine you with a 2,000cc family 7 seater............................................ .

Suri, I heard you loud and clear, my respectful lady racer....There won't any supporting drive to work hard if this is the final destiny, in my perspective!!

little_croco · 11-06-2010, 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by 335 Freak

Feel a bit touching for yr friendly warning!! Indeed, I feel a bit of scare.....as you drove my ride a few times, it is frankly almost impossible to drive within legal speedlimit and many times, my speeding occurence is somewhat unintentional which I don't even know I've speeding until I look at my dometer!! That's why 2,000cc 7 seater idea popped up upon comprehended how hard to drive slow with this monster driving machine!

Suri, I heard you loud and clear, my respectful lady racer....There won't any supporting drive to work hard if this is the final destiny, in my perspective!!

You are so lovely, buddy!

kenysl · 11-06-2010, 12:38 PM

So ken ken, did the car in front of u get the same penalty?

The cops could of only read the front cars speed but not urs! So they can guess ur speed and charge u?

Wolfman · 11-07-2010, 02:55 AM

It's been a while since I've read this forum since I left in HK. But sorry to hear you got busted Ken Ken. Still, don't mean to be harsh, but you were doing 158 km in a 50km soon, admit it, that's pretty extreme speeding, so you can't expect the judge to be in a forgiving mood. I mean, what if some pedesterian or other car can't dodge you in time? Are you so sure your driving skills are so great that you need not worry about that? Anyhow, by "spirited" driving I hope you aren't driving the same way like this "driver" here:

Renus · 11-07-2010, 03:00 PM

Hey Mat, I'm still waiting for your pic.

Wolfman · 11-07-2010, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Renus

Hey Mat, I'm still waiting for your pic.

And you won't be getting one.

Drive carefully next time Ken Ken and watch out for those bastard cops.

JohnMan · 11-10-2010, 11:38 PM

Darn, got busted today while driving through Tsing Yi, got fined $450 and 3 points, the good thing is that it is relatively minor since I still have plenty of points left. This is another incentive to get that radar detector I've been wanting to get, but never got around to getting. Valentine 1 (is that strictly online only?-I heard they don't ship it to HK) or Passport 9800? Which is the best store to get those radar detectors again?

I heard there are driving courses for me to restore my 3 points, if I take it, I will get back to a "clean" 15 points. Is this course worth taking to get back my 3 points?

Land_Shark · 11-11-2010, 03:03 AM

These driving courses / system is funny.. What are you going to learn? How not to step on your gas pedal when you have 300 bhp engine screaming for speed????

sleepergm · 11-11-2010, 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnMan

Darn, got busted today while driving through Tsing Yi, got fined $450 and 3 points, the good thing is that it is relatively minor since I still have plenty of points left. This is another incentive to get that radar detector I've been wanting to get, but never got around to getting. Valentine 1 (is that strictly online only?-I heard they don't ship it to HK) or Passport 9800? Which is the best store to get those radar detectors again?

I heard there are driving courses for me to restore my 3 points, if I take it, I will get back to a "clean" 15 points. Is this course worth taking to get back my 3 points?

You can get Valentine 1 in HK ... I got mine here. As for the driving class they are really boring and not worth it - you have loads of points left. I think you get some points back every 2 yrs.

JohnMan · 11-11-2010, 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by sleepergm

You can get Valentine 1 in HK ... I got mine here. As for the driving class they are really boring and not worth it - you have loads of points left. I think you get some points back every 2 yrs.

Thanks for the info. Just wondering how reliable is V1? I heard it can't detect speed cameras. But can it catch most police radar bands and laser in HK? I don't want to spend close to HK$4000 on a detector that can't catch radar bands and consequently get me more points deducted.

sleepergm · 11-11-2010, 08:19 PM

I think you should get it ... Mine detects speed camera fine. Alot of the time they are actually off. But I get good prewarning with the Val 1 since in traffic the radar bounces off the cars in front. Well worth the money.

JohnMan · 11-12-2010, 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by sleepergm

I think you should get it ... Mine detects speed camera fine. Alot of the time they are actually off. But I get good prewarning with the Val 1 since in traffic the radar bounces off the cars in front. Well worth the money.

Can you recommend me a trustworthy store to buy v1 from? I think it was mentioned before, but can't seem to find it. Thanks.

sleepergm · 11-12-2010, 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnMan

Can you recommend me a trustworthy store to buy v1 from? I think it was mentioned before, but can't seem to find it. Thanks.

I bought mine for $3800 in a store in Mongkok ... on that street of car shops. Forgot what it is called. They sell them in all the stores there. Just look for the best price.

kookieshk · 11-12-2010, 12:12 PM

damnnn i just drove out of repulse bay back to cwb via wong nai chung gap road and saw some police busting people for speeding/illegal racing....

they set up shop before the tennis courts with radar/laser (not sure which one) then have a road block by the shell gas station

everyone please be careful while driving these couple of weeks!!!

hope this helps anyone who's checking the forums this late at night hahaha

335 Freak · 11-13-2010, 04:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Renus

Hey Mat, I'm still waiting for your pic.

Alrdy sent you a few shots via email and hope, it is good enough for you to figure the fitment of Carbon 8's CF Vented Hood fo our E92!!! Again, it is for visual appearance rather aimed for any weight reduction for the Hood while our original Hood is not that heavy though!! Have fun......

kenken · 11-13-2010, 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by 335 Freak

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Originally Posted by Renus

Hey Mat, I'm still waiting for your pic.

Alrdy sent you a few shots via email and hope, it is good enough for you to figure the fitment of Carbon 8's CF Vented Hood fo our E92!!! Again, it is for visual appearance rather aimed for any weight reduction for the Hood while our original Hood is not that heavy though!! Have fun......

Btw need ur help to test my 335 aft installing m3 parts and 4200 is in!

11-05-2010, 03:02 AM	#45
kenken Private First Class 12 Rep 152 Posts Drives: E92 323I Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Hong Kong iTrader: (0)	Laser - Road block, I have a V1 but there was not enough time as I already hard brake when the cars in-font of me hard brake… Also spoke to another lawyer friend that he said that normally it really doesn’t matter how fast you were going or how many times you are above the speed limit…. According to him the max limit set is above 45km/h which is 10points or they can also charge you for illegal racing which is 10points….. The judges have a certain guidelines but it also depends on the season or mood of the judge….. In my case I was above the speed limit and was actually charged for illegal street racing (no matter what for the guidelines for first time offender is 3months + Fine or inc jail time if anyone was injured or harmed in the process) but was subsequently dropped to just speeding over 45/km (section 41 5B) as written on my charge form…. Anyway, it’s over and as I said before becareful while driving now, esp. when you don’t have enough points…. It sucks for me as I have been waiting and hunting for a new car and I just collected it on Monday when my lisc was revoked on Wednesday. Now I gotta wait 1 year to retake my lisc (witht hat ugly p plate) then I can play with my toy which is no longer new…. __________________
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335 Freak Bimmer Turbo Land 39 Rep 398 Posts Drives: White E92 335I Coupe Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Hong Kong iTrader: (8)	Ken Ken, Sorry to hear this very bad news, Brother!!! I really don't know what to say and perhaps, I should either pray for myself or start looking for a 2,000cc family 7 seat car and turning to be a mid age driver like most of those family man on the road....with a Sticker + Personalized License Number as "I love my Family"........Not sure if it is time to give up my Gangster looking 335 E92....huh! __________________ Lumma BDK, M3 CF Hood, I-Forged Triumph 19", AP-6pt-360FR, AP-4pt-345RR, M3 CF Lip, ACS CF RFS, CF Grill, JB3 3.0, Stett DV CHG Pipe + DCI + FMIC, NST Pulley, F+R Full M3 Susp Kits, M3 E92 Q-pipes Ex, UR Catless DP, Ohlins C/O, Eibach Sway, M3 Dash Cockpit, CF Wrap Interior, M3 CF Pedals, M5 Shft Knob, LED ATW, OSS Design BlackOut LED Angel Eyes!!! Last edited by 335 Freak; 11-06-2010 at 02:29 AM..
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kenysl New Member 4 Rep 11 Posts Drives: E46 M3 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Hong Kong iTrader: (0)	So ken ken, did the car in front of u get the same penalty? The cops could of only read the front cars speed but not urs! So they can guess ur speed and charge u?
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11-07-2010, 02:55 AM	#54
Wolfman Second Lieutenant 34 Rep 234 Posts Drives: 2009 E90 335i Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Seattle, WA iTrader: (0)	It's been a while since I've read this forum since I left in HK. But sorry to hear you got busted Ken Ken. Still, don't mean to be harsh, but you were doing 158 km in a 50km soon, admit it, that's pretty extreme speeding, so you can't expect the judge to be in a forgiving mood. I mean, what if some pedesterian or other car can't dodge you in time? Are you so sure your driving skills are so great that you need not worry about that? Anyhow, by "spirited" driving I hope you aren't driving the same way like this "driver" here:
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Renus Lieutenant 28 Rep 528 Posts Drives: E92 335i Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Hong Kong iTrader: (1)	Hey Mat, I'm still waiting for your pic.
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JohnMan Lieutenant 40 Rep 423 Posts Drives: E90 325i Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Hong Kong iTrader: (0)	Darn, got busted today while driving through Tsing Yi, got fined $450 and 3 points, the good thing is that it is relatively minor since I still have plenty of points left. This is another incentive to get that radar detector I've been wanting to get, but never got around to getting. Valentine 1 (is that strictly online only?-I heard they don't ship it to HK) or Passport 9800? Which is the best store to get those radar detectors again? I heard there are driving courses for me to restore my 3 points, if I take it, I will get back to a "clean" 15 points. Is this course worth taking to get back my 3 points? Last edited by JohnMan; 11-11-2010 at 12:02 AM..
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Land_Shark In The Flesh 23 Rep 600 Posts Drives: Z4 sDrive 35i Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Hong Kong iTrader: (0)	These driving courses / system is funny.. What are you going to learn? How not to step on your gas pedal when you have 300 bhp engine screaming for speed????
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11-11-2010, 08:19 PM	#61
sleepergm Lieutenant 36 Rep 541 Posts Drives: White 335i M-Tech Join Date: May 2007 Location: Hong Kong iTrader: (2)	I think you should get it ... Mine detects speed camera fine. Alot of the time they are actually off. But I get good prewarning with the Val 1 since in traffic the radar bounces off the cars in front. Well worth the money.
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kookieshk Private First Class 17 Rep 155 Posts Drives: AW BMW E82 1M Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: HK iTrader: (0)	damnnn i just drove out of repulse bay back to cwb via wong nai chung gap road and saw some police busting people for speeding/illegal racing.... they set up shop before the tennis courts with radar/laser (not sure which one) then have a road block by the shell gas station everyone please be careful while driving these couple of weeks!!! hope this helps anyone who's checking the forums this late at night hahaha
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