[hughrd1_e90]

Originally Posted by drewsky1996

I'm looking to put the F30 340mm brembos onto my e92 328 soon. From what I've read its pretty much plug and play, but does anyone know if my stock brake lines will work? May be a dumb question, but I'm new to this!

Upgrade to steel braided lines while your at it if you haven't already done so

[drewsky1996]

Originally Posted by hughrd1_e90

Upgrade to steel braided lines while your at it if you haven't already done so

Originally Posted by hughrd1_e90

Upgrade to steel braided lines while your at it if you haven't already done so

Most likely will go to stainless. Stoptechs are about $100. Anyone have a set lying around by chance?

[SingleturboVert]

Originally Posted by feuer

Is little too much involvement form money in part to doing the labor, either yourself or paying someone. So a lot of people milling the calipers, getting e60 rotors and drilling out the hub tab is so much better scenario I think. But you already bought the hubs so.... Is a problem to removed them but could be a problem to reinstall them as well. You might need special tool to pull the shaft through the bearing.

I've searched a few key words in this thread, can't find any actual details on it.

I've ran into an issue with the Zimmerman rotors where my pad is not sweeping the rotor correctly. Everything fits (barely) but I'm getting an uneven sweep as the pad/caliper is situated too closely to the center of the hub.

I'm assuming the knuckle elongation is still required? Just need some confirmation, any other information is also welcome.

Also these Style 230's hit the caliper with the E60 rotor, I damaged my finish while doing this. I put on 10mm spacers and its fine now.

I still need to finish bleeding and bedding my brakes but I don't want to do anything until this is fixed.

[IMG]https://i.imgur.com/PTNRicx.png[/IMG

[feuer]

SingleturboVert you will need to elongate the holes to correct the position of the caliper

[SingleturboVert]

Originally Posted by feuer

SingleturboVert you will need to elongate the holes to correct the position of the caliper

Thank you once again for this confirmation. Is there a recommended method of doing this, safely? I think I saw someone doing an insert, what is your suggestion on this? By the way, I've collected and documented this entire process into a single guide, so it should be easier for people to accomplish in the future so your help has not gone to waste.

[SingleturboVert]

Originally Posted by mariusc

They had to be elongated. I did "some" elongating at first, then mounted the calipers. The pads was then hanging just about inwards of the inner wear surface on the rotor. Elongated some more, until the pads leave appoximately 1 mm edge on both inner and outer surface of the rotor.

Here is something I over looked. I think I was confusing this with the other machining which gets done here.

Do you have photos of this process or recommendations? Thanks.

[SingleturboVert]

Originally Posted by Kosmic

wow...
to the first... sorry for my bad english.

Your us-guys are crazy... In Germany there would be 10 years jail for the rear brake conversions

I drive this brake now 3 years with no problems.....( no racetrack )

the 370mm front brake is p&p... only change, steel-flex brake-lines, redstuff brake pads from EBC and Protection plates.

the 345mm rear brake you need: rotors from Ultimot and Eccentric bushes M10 for the caliper ( you can do this made by self ).
also i change steel-flex brake-lines and brake-pads ( redstuff ).

And for a normal break pedal you are coding the Sportbrake from E9x.

Thats all... so i hope this help you guys...

Originally Posted by Kosmic

You need:

Brakediscs (Pic.2) from www.Ultimot.de, Order-Nr. 34216763827 as BS393SP.
Price is +/- 240.-€ ( you can change the language in the upper left corner )

4x Eccentric bushes M10 with 2,5mm offset (Pic.3) Price is +/- 80.-€

Press the M12 bushes out and press the M10 eccentric bushes in the right position in. (Pic.4)

4x Bolts M10x30mm in 10.9 (Old one is to short) Price is +/- 10.-€

Thats all you need :thump:

!!! When the position from the caliper is not correct, you must the fixing holes from the wheel carrier 1-2mm expand in the direction of travel.

Okay, this is the best answer I've seen. But my question is this, with an aftermarket zimmerman E60 rotor, does this insert push the caliper out so the pad sweep is acceptable WITHOUT drilling or elongating the knuckle?

[feuer]

Originally Posted by SingleturboVert

Here is something I over looked. I think I was confusing this with the other machining which gets done here.

Do you have photos of this process or recommendations? Thanks.

I assume you didn't do none of that. I always use 12mm drill bit, arm wrestle and patience for test fit.

[feuer]

Originally Posted by SingleturboVert

Okay, this is the best answer I've seen. But my question is this, with the E60 rotor, does this insert push the caliper out so the pad sweep is acceptable WITHOUT drilling or elongating the knuckle?

Lol no. Just more work for same result.

[SingleturboVert]

Originally Posted by feuer

Lol no. Just more work for same result.

I've used a timersert downsizing the M12 to an M10 so I've done no drilling/elongation etc. It would make sense to me that using an offset bushing would indeed push the caliper out at least some?

[feuer]

Originally Posted by SingleturboVert

I've used a timersert downsizing the M12 to an M10 so I've done no drilling/elongation etc. It would make sense to me that using an offset bushing would indeed push the caliper out at least some?

That's all good but you still need to elongate the holes on the hub even with eccentric inserts. Since you need to elongate the holes anyway why go through all that work of pushing out and then in inserts into the caliper? Just elongate the holes and you will be done tonight.

[SingleturboVert]

Originally Posted by feuer

That's all good but you still need to elongate the holes on the hub even with eccentric inserts. Since you need to elongate the holes anyway why go through all that work of pushing out and then in inserts into the caliper? Just elongate the holes and you will be done tonight.

Please forgive my ignorance, I suppose this is what I don't understand. Why does the knuckle still require elongation IF the offset of the inserts is large enough to shift the caliper, and therefore the pads outward?

[feuer]

Originally Posted by SingleturboVert

Please forgive my ignorance, I suppose this is what I don't understand. Why does the knuckle still require elongation IF the offset of the inserts is large enough to shift the caliper, and therefore the pads outward?

Because the offset you will get from the eccentric inserts won't be enough. Read Kosmic last sentence again. I already discussed this with Aus335iguy above. It's just waste if you ask me. There offset inserts will give you 2mm. You need to move the caliper further away from the hub than 2mm. Yes it will be less enongatuon on the hub but that is different conversation all together.

[SingleturboVert]

Originally Posted by Kosmic

You need:

Brakediscs (Pic.2) from www.Ultimot.de, Order-Nr. 34216763827 as BS393SP.
Price is +/- 240.-€ ( you can change the language in the upper left corner )

4x Eccentric bushes M10 with 2,5mm offset (Pic.3) Price is +/- 80.-€

Press the M12 bushes out and press the M10 eccentric bushes in the right position in. (Pic.4)

4x Bolts M10x30mm in 10.9 (Old one is to short) Price is +/- 10.-€

Thats all you need :thump:

!!! When the position from the caliper is not correct, you must the fixing holes from the wheel carrier 1-2mm expand in the direction of travel.

Originally Posted by feuer

Because the offset you will get from the eccentric inserts won't be enough. Read Kosmic last sentence again. I already discussed this with Aus335iguy above. It's just waste if you ask me. There offset inserts will give you 2mm. You need to move the caliper further away from the hub than 2mm. Yes it will be less enongatuon on the hub but that is different conversation all together.

Understand, so it is just a matter of the bush not being aggressive enough with the offset. He calls for 1-2mm more in elongation, so it sounds like he did not want to have his bushes made over again or he felt it would compromise the integrity. I think another 1-1.5mm can be obtained in a bushing, we will see. It may not be perfect pad sweep but passable hopefully. It is definitely not the cheapest option, but for people like me who refuse to elongate the knuckle, I think its worth exploring which I'll be doing. Will report back if it works out or not.

[Aus335iguy]

Originally Posted by SingleturboVert

Understand, so it is just a matter of the bush not being aggressive enough with the offset. He calls for 1-2mm more in elongation, so it sounds like he did not want to have his bushes made over again. I think another 1-1.5mm can be obtained in a bushing, we will see. It may not be perfect pad sweep but passable hopefully.

Yet to have a crack at the rears myself. If your elongating as well as widening the holes from 10mm to 12 mm the 2.5mm eccentric bush should in theory cover the spread. Theory and practice are two different things. feuer knows his stuff though you can trust his advice better than most.

[feuer]

Originally Posted by SingleturboVert

Understand, so it is just a matter of the bush not being aggressive enough with the offset. He calls for 1-2mm more in elongation, so it sounds like he did not want to have his bushes made over again or he felt it would compromise the integrity. I think another 1-1.5mm can be obtained in a bushing, we will see. It may not be perfect pad sweep but passable hopefully. It is definitely not the cheapest option, but for people like me who refuse to elongate the knuckle, I think its worth exploring which I'll be doing. Will report back if it works out or not.

Correct, you can totally make it work without elongating the hub mounting tabs. Like you said you just need more aggressive offset on the new insert. If you have the means to make these custom inserts go for it. I would too if I can machine parts that small.

[SingleturboVert]

Originally Posted by feuer

Correct, you can totally make it work without elongating the hub mounting tabs. Like you said you just need more aggressive offset on the new insert. If you have the means to make these custom inserts go for it. I would too if I can machine parts that small.

I do not personally, but would pay to have this done. It is not cheap, but it is cheaper than me tossing out my rotors, buying F30 rotors and the ECS/EOS bracket. In fact, with aftermarket E60 rotors and a set of these inserts, you wouldn't have to custom drill, elongate, or machine anything.

I'm expecting to pay around $200 for these inserts, which is the same amount I already paid to get my caliper ears needlessly machined down to F30 rotor sizes.

I am also concerned about the integrity of the insert when you offset it so much, we will see.

[hughrd1_e90]

Does anyone know if the 335i brake reservoir fits on the m3 master cylinder?

[LMB335IS]

Originally Posted by hughrd1_e90

Does anyone know if the 335i brake reservoir fits on the m3 master cylinder?

It does, I used mine on a M3 MC.

[hughrd1_e90]

Originally Posted by LMB335IS

It does, I used mine on a M3 MC.

Ok thanks bro

[Le7316]

Originally Posted by feuer

E8x 135i gray or gold (yellow) calipers are straight bolt on and they work with stock e9x 335i rotors or e60 or f10 rotors. People like to use the f10 part 34216775287 because are 2-piece and will match the front f30 rotors. They are 330x20 with aluminum hat riveted to the blank.

Hi ,

Saw this post while I'm doing the research to upgrade my rear calipers and just want to confirm any 08-13 135i rear calipers will be straight swap on my 07 E92 335i correct ? I saw a pairs locally I just want know for sure before I grab those .

[feuer]

Originally Posted by Le7316

Hi ,

Saw this post while I'm doing the research to upgrade my rear calipers and just want to confirm any 08-13 135i rear calipers will be straight swap on my 07 E92 335i correct ? I saw a pairs locally I just want know for sure before I grab those .

As long as you aren't associated with Ghassan Automotive all is good.