Bavarian Technic Diagnostic Tool

Bubbles · 02-09-2009, 07:01 PM

Thoughts? To me it looks like a glorified OBDII reader for MSD80 ECUs, although you can delete adaptation values. Maybe it can be "tuned" to adjust the ECU?

Diagnostic Tool for BMW and MINI

Early Release

With the release of the Bavarian Technic Diagnostic Tool for BMW, we begin the next phase of this long-term project. Today, we offer a product that includes comprehensive coverage and a long list of features with a focus on late-model cars. Development, however, is not yet complete Read more.

What cars does it work on?

2005-2008 BMW 1 Series
1996-2009 BMW 3 Series
1996-2008 BMW 5 Series
2003-2008 BMW 6 Series
1994-2008 BMW 7 Series
2004-2008 BMW X3
1999-2006 BMW X5
2008-2009 BMW X6
1996-2002 BMW Z3
2002-2003 BMW Z4
2000-2003 BMW Z8
All BMW M models
Mini Cooper R50 & R56
Looking for Porsche? Please see Durametric

What does it do?

The tool accesses the electronic control units in your car to:

Read and clear diagnostic fault codes
Display shadow faults and soft faults
Display and record real-time actual values
Activate components of the car for troubleshooting
Reset service reminders
Reset condition-based service indicators
Send special commands to control units
Show ECU information
Access the latest BMW DCAN systems for 2007+ models

What systems does it work on?

Engine
Airbag
ABS
Transmission

Alarm
Central electronics
Heating & A/C
And much more...

*Not all features are supported on all modules or vehicles. See our Model/Feature Matrix for specific coverage.

How does it work?

Our product is a hardware and software tool that plugs into your Windows PC's USB port (check system requirements). Once plugged into the car, the tool is capable of communicating with the different system control units in the car.

Can it really help me turn off my airbag light?

Yes! The tool can show you why it is on in the first place so you can correct the problem and turn the light off.

Beta

The Bavarian Technic tool for BMW is not yet available for sale. We are currently undergoing beta testing on our BMW product and expect the first release in January 2009.

How is your product different from the OBD2 products available?

Our product communicates with your car just like the factory tool does and can access all of the systems in the car. OBD2 was created for emissions-related problems and only covers a limited subset of your car's engine.

scalbert · 02-09-2009, 07:58 PM

It is something I will be seriously looking into. I want to know what they mean by the following (emailing now):

Quote:

The professional version also supports Coding and Command console that are not supported with the Enthusiast version

I am fine with the 3 VIN's on the Enthusiast version as I want to use it on my car. But if local members want to donate a few $$ I could opt for the Professional package.

scalbert · 02-09-2009, 08:18 PM

Dang, it looks like what I want/need but they had to remove an important part. I can understand the Coding fucntion not being available in the Enthusiast version. But the Command section is not supplied.

Coding allows you to essentially clone the DME completely.
Command allows you to reset adaptation channels.

Coding would be cool but considering the issues the dealers have with an occasional hang-up, I doubt I would want to touch it. However, I also doubt I would use the Command feature much anyway.

After reading the site, it does appear they support extended data with the ability to read and reset extended codes. In other words, you can clear non-OBDII codes which is what we have been lacking. And $278 is a better price than the anticipated $500 price from AutoEnginuity.

Mach@M-Force_Design · 02-09-2009, 08:23 PM

I wonder if this would allow DRL delete and Angel Eye activation during the day..

scalbert · 02-09-2009, 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mach@M-Force_Design

I wonder if this would allow DRL delete and Angel Eye activation during the day..

My guess would be yes and no. I doubt the Enthusiast version would. The Professional could if you download the code, make changes to the Hex file and then upload. But that is a daunting task is accurate.

seccsc · 02-09-2009, 08:43 PM

What about changing a Piezo Injector and inputting the required information from the new injector to the DME?

scalbert · 02-09-2009, 08:46 PM

Great, guess I pulled the trigger. I should be able to test it on Friday!!! I am particularly interested in the data logging rate.

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scalbert · 02-09-2009, 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seccsc

What about changing a Piezo Injector and inputting the required information from the new injector to the DME?

My guess would be the Professional package. But may be worth a email to them.

OpenFlash · 02-09-2009, 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scalbert

Great, guess I pulled the trigger. I should be able to test it on Friday!!! I am particularly interested in the data logging rate.

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Whoo hooo! I'm looking forward to what you find

ontopofm · 02-09-2009, 09:08 PM

looks like it doesnt support E92?

scalbert · 02-09-2009, 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ontopofm

looks like it doesnt support E92?

To me it appears they used the E90 nomenclature to assume E9x. There should be no reason why the differences between a Sedan and Coupe should be different.

ontopofm · 02-09-2009, 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scalbert

To me it appears they used the E90 nomenclature to assume E9x. There should be no reason why the differences between a Sedan and Coupe should be different.

thanks, looking forward to your testing, i might buy one as well

Bubbles · 02-09-2009, 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scalbert

Great, guess I pulled the trigger. I should be able to test it on Friday!!! I am particularly interested in the data logging rate.

Thanks for buying from Bavarian Technic LLC. using Google Checkout! Bavarian Technic LLC. will charge and ship your order soon.

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Scabert, I thank you for doing your part in stimulating this economy.

Bubbles · 02-09-2009, 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scalbert

My guess would be yes and no. I doubt the Enthusiast version would. The Professional could if you download the code, make changes to the Hex file and then upload. But that is a daunting task is accurate.

Could you dupe an ECU?

Bubbles · 02-09-2009, 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ontopofm

looks like it doesnt support E92?

Quote:

Originally Posted by scalbert

To me it appears they used the E90 nomenclature to assume E9x. There should be no reason why the differences between a Sedan and Coupe should be different.

+1 but it appears that MSD 801 is not supported.

jonm42 · 02-09-2009, 09:42 PM

You data-mad fool, you

! Have a blast!

Quote:

Originally Posted by scalbert

Great, guess I pulled the trigger. I should be able to test it on Friday!!! I am particularly interested in the data logging rate.

Thanks for buying from Bavarian Technic LLC. using Google Checkout! Bavarian Technic LLC. will charge and ship your order soon.

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Get up-to-date information about order #xxx

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Buy again in seconds
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Order Details - Feb 9, 2009 9:41 PM EST
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Shipping & Handling (UPS 3 Day Select) : $18.23
Total:$305.23

Mike@N54Tuning.com · 02-09-2009, 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonm42

You data-mad fool, you

! Have a blast!

Looking forward to hearing what you think.

Mike

mwahlert · 02-09-2009, 09:55 PM

humm - looks like a "vag com" for this market - VERY exciting...i will be ordering in the next few days.

i'm REALLY curious if it can log data at high rate of speed like my VCDS can on my VW's....no more dicking around with generic OBDII data logging garbage..

add: wow - the interface looks JUST like my Ross Tech VCDS HEX+CAN-USB, i e-mailed them, wonder if I can just buy the software

Alex@AKMotorwerk · 02-09-2009, 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scalbert

Great, guess I pulled the trigger. I should be able to test it on Friday!!! I am particularly interested in the data logging rate.

Thanks for buying from Bavarian Technic LLC. using Google Checkout! Bavarian Technic LLC. will charge and ship your order soon.

How do I check on this order?
Get up-to-date information about order #xxx

Problems with this order?
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Buy again in seconds
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Order Details - Feb 9, 2009 9:41 PM EST
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Shipping & Handling (UPS 3 Day Select) : $18.23
Total:$305.23

Nice Steve... will u be doing a full review on this once you get it. I'm very interested!!

RiXst3r · 02-09-2009, 10:25 PM

Nice find... good thing I didn't waste money on a GT1, this is like 10% of the cost, and has constant updates! hopefully it reads everything!

Alex@AKMotorwerk · 02-09-2009, 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RiXst3r

Nice find... good thing I didn't waste money on a GT1, this is like 10% of the cost, and has constant updates! hopefully it reads everything!

that's my concern... i hope scalbert will let us know soon

Bubbles · 02-09-2009, 10:31 PM

MSD80 supports the following commands:

Reset air control adjustment
Reset knock control adaptation
Reset lambda adaptaion
Reset intake manifold adaptation
Reset throttle valve adapation
Reset fuel/air adaptation
Reset secondary air injection adaptation
Battery replacement adaptation
Reset octane rating adaptation
Reset variant learning adaptation
Reset VVT adaptation
Reset vanos adaptation
Reset running time

02-09-2009, 07:01 PM	#1
Bubbles Brigadier General 2753 Rep 4,445 Posts Drives: Green Bastard Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Bishop Bend iTrader: (3)	Bavarian Technic Diagnostic Tool Thoughts? To me it looks like a glorified OBDII reader for MSD80 ECUs, although you can delete adaptation values. Maybe it can be "tuned" to adjust the ECU? Diagnostic Tool for BMW and MINI Early Release With the release of the Bavarian Technic Diagnostic Tool for BMW, we begin the next phase of this long-term project. Today, we offer a product that includes comprehensive coverage and a long list of features with a focus on late-model cars. Development, however, is not yet complete Read more. What cars does it work on? 2005-2008 BMW 1 Series 1996-2009 BMW 3 Series 1996-2008 BMW 5 Series 2003-2008 BMW 6 Series 1994-2008 BMW 7 Series 2004-2008 BMW X3 1999-2006 BMW X5 2008-2009 BMW X6 1996-2002 BMW Z3 2002-2003 BMW Z4 2000-2003 BMW Z8 All BMW M models Mini Cooper R50 & R56 Looking for Porsche? Please see Durametric What does it do? The tool accesses the electronic control units in your car to: Read and clear diagnostic fault codes Display shadow faults and soft faults Display and record real-time actual values Activate components of the car for troubleshooting Reset service reminders Reset condition-based service indicators Send special commands to control units Show ECU information Access the latest BMW DCAN systems for 2007+ models What systems does it work on? Engine Airbag ABS Transmission Alarm Central electronics Heating & A/C And much more... Not all features are supported on all modules or vehicles. See our Model/Feature Matrix for specific coverage. How does it work?* Our product is a hardware and software tool that plugs into your Windows PC's USB port (check system requirements). Once plugged into the car, the tool is capable of communicating with the different system control units in the car. Can it really help me turn off my airbag light? Yes! The tool can show you why it is on in the first place so you can correct the problem and turn the light off. Beta The Bavarian Technic tool for BMW is not yet available for sale. We are currently undergoing beta testing on our BMW product and expect the first release in January 2009. How is your product different from the OBD2 products available? Our product communicates with your car just like the factory tool does and can access all of the systems in the car. OBD2 was created for emissions-related problems and only covers a limited subset of your car's engine. __________________ Last edited by Bubbles; 02-10-2009 at 06:54 AM..
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scalbert Major General 153 Rep 5,780 Posts Drives: '13 S4, '15 Q7 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Woodstock, GA iTrader: (8)	Dang, it looks like what I want/need but they had to remove an important part. I can understand the Coding fucntion not being available in the Enthusiast version. But the Command section is not supplied. Coding allows you to essentially clone the DME completely. Command allows you to reset adaptation channels. Coding would be cool but considering the issues the dealers have with an occasional hang-up, I doubt I would want to touch it. However, I also doubt I would use the Command feature much anyway. After reading the site, it does appear they support extended data with the ability to read and reset extended codes. In other words, you can clear non-OBDII codes which is what we have been lacking. And $278 is a better price than the anticipated $500 price from AutoEnginuity.
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Mach@M-Force_Design Lieutenant Colonel 91 Rep 1,601 Posts Drives: TiAg E90 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Toronto, Ontario iTrader: (13)	I wonder if this would allow DRL delete and Angel Eye activation during the day..
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seccsc Captain 239 Rep 714 Posts Drives: G20 M340xi Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: VA iTrader: (0)	What about changing a Piezo Injector and inputting the required information from the new injector to the DME? __________________
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scalbert Major General 153 Rep 5,780 Posts Drives: '13 S4, '15 Q7 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Woodstock, GA iTrader: (8)	Great, guess I pulled the trigger. I should be able to test it on Friday!!! I am particularly interested in the data logging rate. Thanks for buying from Bavarian Technic LLC. using Google Checkout! Bavarian Technic LLC. will charge and ship your order soon. How do I check on this order? Get up-to-date information about order #xxx Problems with this order? Contact Bavarian Technic LLC. Buy again in seconds every time you shop. Just look for the Google Checkout button at this store or on Google Product Search. Order Details - Feb 9, 2009 9:41 PM EST Google Order #xxx Shipping Status Qty Item Price Not yet shipped 1 Enthusiast Kit $287.00 Shipping & Handling (UPS 3 Day Select) : $18.23 Total:$305.23
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ontopofm Lieutenant Colonel 76 Rep 1,548 Posts Drives: stock Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: CA iTrader: (4)	looks like it doesnt support E92?
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mwahlert Lieutenant Colonel 95 Rep 1,659 Posts Drives: 2009 335i Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: NC iTrader: (8)	humm - looks like a "vag com" for this market - VERY exciting...i will be ordering in the next few days. i'm REALLY curious if it can log data at high rate of speed like my VCDS can on my VW's....no more dicking around with generic OBDII data logging garbage.. add: wow - the interface looks JUST like my Ross Tech VCDS HEX+CAN-USB, i e-mailed them, wonder if I can just buy the software
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RiXst3r 274 Rep 6,510 Posts Drives: M235i Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Ohio iTrader: (14)	Nice find... good thing I didn't waste money on a GT1, this is like 10% of the cost, and has constant updates! hopefully it reads everything!
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Bubbles Brigadier General 2753 Rep 4,445 Posts Drives: Green Bastard Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Bishop Bend iTrader: (3)	MSD80 supports the following commands: Reset air control adjustment Reset knock control adaptation Reset lambda adaptaion Reset intake manifold adaptation Reset throttle valve adapation Reset fuel/air adaptation Reset secondary air injection adaptation Battery replacement adaptation Reset octane rating adaptation Reset variant learning adaptation Reset VVT adaptation Reset vanos adaptation Reset running time __________________
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