impression on cla 45 amg?

dragon1761 · 05-24-2013, 08:27 PM

On paper sounds like a beast at only $47500 comparable to m3 what's everyones take on it. Thinking of getting it for parents

KingOfJericho · 05-24-2013, 09:52 PM

My opinion is that it's not even remotely comparable to an M3.

playground · 05-24-2013, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by KingOfJericho

My opinion is that it's not even remotely comparable to an M3.

fireline43 · 05-24-2013, 10:06 PM

Compare it to the 335i

Red Bread · 05-25-2013, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by fireline43

Compare it to the 335i

In reverse. The closest real competition would probably be a Golf R with a chip.

fireline43 · 05-25-2013, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Red Bread

In reverse. The closest real competition would probably be a Golf R with a chip.

Well then I guess you mean the 335i is slower yea. It's 0-60 is 5.1 sec. The CLA amg is 4.5 sec. They are priced pretty similar also.

GeeRam · 05-25-2013, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by KingOfJericho

My opinion is that it's not even remotely comparable to an M3.

This.

Audi RS3/BMW M135 competitor more like.

Vanmarsenille · 05-25-2013, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by fireline43

Well then I guess you mean the 335i is slower yea. It's 0-60 is 5.1 sec. The CLA amg is 4.5 sec. They are priced pretty similar also.

Yes, because we all know that 0-60 is the only thing that matters.

FVM3 · 05-26-2013, 01:09 AM

Its running 1.8 bar which pushes 180hp /L. I will worry about the reliability

kyleb350 · 05-26-2013, 03:48 AM

Isn't this basically the size of a 1 series? I have a feeling if you get it for your parents, they might have a hard time getting in and out of it.

05-26-2013, 08:05 AM

the CLA is lower, wider, and longer than the current C Class - yes it's true

the CLA is lower and longer than an e90 sedan (but 2.7cm skinnier)

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not 1 series sizing

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i would compare it to a 335xi, not an m3

335xi = 47k
cla45 amg = 47.5k

m3 = 60k
c63 amg = 60k

Inspired · 05-26-2013, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Red Bread

In reverse. The closest real competition would probably be a Golf R with a chip.

Golf R. What the hell are you guys talking about? You are comparing a luxury sport sedan to a hatchback sports car. Golf R and the CLA45 has nothing in common. We are talking about a 6 speed manual, 256HP vs a 7 speed DCT, 350HP.

It wouldn't match up against a M3 but it will definitely compete with the 335.

E90 87ss · 05-26-2013, 04:55 PM

I just priced out a c63 with some options and it came to $74k, so hopefully the CLA doesn't get anywhere that price with options. Personally I think it's a really neat car with decent hp and mpg and would consider if doesn't touch c63 pricing...

Red Bread · 05-26-2013, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Inspired

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Originally Posted by Red Bread

In reverse. The closest real competition would probably be a Golf R with a chip.

Golf R. What the hell are you guys talking about? You are comparing a luxury sport sedan to a hatchback sports car. Golf R and the CLA45 has nothing in common. We are talking about a 6 speed manual, 256HP vs a 7 speed DCT, 350HP.

It wouldn't match up against a M3 but it will definitely compete with the 335.

Haldex, look into it.

catherineanh · 05-26-2013, 06:41 PM

i'm considering getting it as a daily drive!

Inspired · 05-26-2013, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Red Bread

Haldex, look into it.

What?

We are comparing car based on the maker of the AWD? That's like comparing a Lotus Elise to a Toyota Celica just because they have the same engine.

Looks like Audi, Volvo, Bugatti uses haldex traction. I guess we should compare a Bugatti to the CLA45 also.

fireline43 · 05-27-2013, 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Inspired

What?

We are comparing car based on the maker of the AWD? That's like comparing a Lotus Elise to a Toyota Celica just because they have the same engine.

Looks like Audi, Volvo, Bugatti uses haldex traction. I guess we should compare a Bugatti to the CLA45 also.

your not understanding. 335i compares to a veyron. Nothing lower.

Red Bread · 05-27-2013, 08:11 AM

Good grief. Wait for actual road tests, but a car that is limited to only 60% of the power to the rear wheels and defaults to fwd with no slip is very unlikely to be nearly as aggressive or rewarding to drive as a rwd or constant rate awd car.

Sadly, from interviews with the head of AMG, they're not even using the latest version of Haldex that runs a steady amount of power to the rear wheels, like the current Golf R, but an older version that defaults to 100% to the front.

So stop focusing solely magazine stats and learn something about how the car works and you'll understand why I think it's unlikely to be comparable to cars that it may be quicker than or make more power than. It is not a C Class with 4Matic, but an A Class with Haldex, sort of the difference of a 3er with xDrive and a Mini with Haldex.

playground · 05-27-2013, 11:02 AM

I will agree that the CLA45 will compete with the 335i, Benz's 4MATIC is much better than the XI rubbish that BMW makes.

Red Bread · 05-27-2013, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by playground

I will agree that the CLA45 will compete with the 335i, Benz's 4MATIC is much better than the XI rubbish that BMW makes.

This would be great if the CLA/A-Class used 4Matic, but they don't, they use Haldex.

kmarei · 05-28-2013, 11:12 PM

360hp from a 2.0
That's 180hp/liter
That's probably one of the strongest STOCK outputs of any engine I know of
Damn impressive

amanda hor$t · 05-28-2013, 11:58 PM

not good at all, i'd rather take a forest green toyota

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335dream Guest 0 Rep n/a Posts Drives:	the CLA is lower, wider, and longer than the current C Class - yes it's true the CLA is lower and longer than an e90 sedan (but 2.7cm skinnier) --- not 1 series sizing --- i would compare it to a 335xi, not an m3 335xi = 47k cla45 amg = 47.5k m3 = 60k c63 amg = 60k Last edited by 335dream; 05-26-2013 at 08:13 AM..
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Red Bread Major General 4463 Rep 9,160 Posts Drives: Smog machines Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Austin, TX iTrader: (0)	Good grief. Wait for actual road tests, but a car that is limited to only 60% of the power to the rear wheels and defaults to fwd with no slip is very unlikely to be nearly as aggressive or rewarding to drive as a rwd or constant rate awd car. Sadly, from interviews with the head of AMG, they're not even using the latest version of Haldex that runs a steady amount of power to the rear wheels, like the current Golf R, but an older version that defaults to 100% to the front. So stop focusing solely magazine stats and learn something about how the car works and you'll understand why I think it's unlikely to be comparable to cars that it may be quicker than or make more power than. It is not a C Class with 4Matic, but an A Class with Haldex, sort of the difference of a 3er with xDrive and a Mini with Haldex.
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