[zimbim]

I received the 25.02 update and since the update my ac fan cycles. VR works perfectly, but I never had an issue with that before.
My dealer is waiting for a word from BMW Big Brother in regard to the cycling issue

[sflgator]

Originally Posted by zimbim

I received the 25.02 update and since the update my ac fan cycles. VR works perfectly, but I never had an issue with that before.
My dealer is waiting for a word from BMW Big Brother in regard to the cycling issue

Did you notice that your RTTI is now broken? It will just display "TI" (no + and no messages).

[Neon21db]

I'm still waiting on a fix for RTTI.

[cabrioitalia]

Here in Europe no problem with Voice Control and Traffic Message Channel (but I think there are difference between european TMC and RTTI).
Progman 25.0.3 updated two days ago.
Another difference I have: by entering destination with voice control, before update I have to do the spelling (letter by letter) of city and address.
Now I can say the entire city and address as a complete word.

[BBMMWW]

i have problems with my TMC.

[vivekk]

Originally Posted by cabrioitalia

Here in Europe no problem with Voice Control and Traffic Message Channel (but I think there are difference between european TMC and RTTI).
Progman 25.0.3 updated two days ago.
Another difference I have: by entering destination with voice control, before update I have to do the spelling (letter by letter) of city and address.
Now I can say the entire city and address as a complete word.

Nice to know!

Thanks for that cabrioitalia.

Viv

[335I talian Stallion NJ]

Originally Posted by Neon21db

I'm still waiting on a fix for RTTI.

I have kept pushing back my appointments to get 25x since these issues surfaced... my next date is May 1st... Think I will be pushing it back some more?

[p166mmx73]

I got a new issue. Not sure if it's progman 25.0.4 related but I am pretty sure it worked before I had the update. Now, I cannot open my trunk using the keyfob. Anyone else?

[Northernlight]

Does anybody know if VR speed is improved with these updates? It seems intolerably slow in this MTV fast paced life we now live in. The long pauses make it almost unusable.

[drfluid]

I dropped the car off at the dealer this morning for the service and mentioned the assist. window arrow pop-up thing.

Surprisingly, they said it's already done and it only took about 7 hours!! Last time they did the software update it took more than a day.
My SA said the arrow problem is fixed, does this mean my car has progman 25? I know I'll find out that in about a couple of hours, but can't wait!

If they uploaded the new progman in 7 hours, then they must be really good, aren't they?

[MusicMan]

Originally Posted by drfluid

I dropped the car off at the dealer this morning for the service and mentioned the assist. window arrow pop-up thing.

Surprisingly, they said it's already done and it only took about 7 hours!! Last time they did the software update it took more than a day.
My SA said the arrow problem is fixed, does this mean my car has progman 25? I know I'll find out that in about a couple of hours, but can't wait!

If they uploaded the new progman in 7 hours, then they must be really good, aren't they?

Noticed you have a 330i, unless you have a new update (higher than 25.05) it is most likely your VR will not work after the update. Did you mention the current problems with the updates to your rep?

[drfluid]

Originally Posted by MusicMan

Noticed you have a 330i, unless you have a new update (higher than 25.05) it is most likely your VR will not work after the update. Did you mention the current problems with the updates to your rep?

The SA I talked to was *unaware* of any software update whatsoever

He said he would have it checked and no more words...
And yes, I have read lot of postings here that VR wouldn't work after the update.
Since I have a 500 mile trip ahead in 2 weeks and had a 'service due' warning for the microfilter, I figured I better do it now.


If VR won't work, then I can always bring the car back to the service for the better software (hopefully) next time.

[cobradac]

You really need to be sure your dealers or you are not truncating the PROGMAN version numbers and use Target data Status numbers where ever possible. Most likely all thos claiming 25.02 or 25. 03 or 25.04 are really referring to 25.00.01 .... 25.00.04. Now 25.01.00 is out.

SI B 61 03 05
General Electrical Systems April 2007
Technical Service

This Service Information bulletin supersedes S.I. B61 03 05 dated March 2007.

designates changes to this revision

SUBJECT
Software Errors Corrected with Progman


MODEL
E90, E91, E92, E93 (3 Series)

Vehicles produced up to March 30, 2007


SITUATION
Customer may complain of the following:

The following software errors were corrected with the release of Progman 25.01.00 (Target data Status E89x-07-03-520). Only software errors that are corrected with the last 2 Progman versions will be listed.

CCC (Car Communication Computer) equipped vehicle, the SDARS (Satellite Radio) stored station list is intermittently empty since programming with Progman V25.00.00.

Poor RTTI (Real Time Traffic Information) reception. The CID (Central Information Display) is constantly displaying "Transferring Messages" since programming with Progman V25.00.00.

After vehicle programming PDC (Park Distance Control) FC 9e28 is stored. Carry out a power cycle (ignition Off/On) and clear the fault memory.

The following software errors were corrected with the release of Progman 25.00.00 (Target data Status E89x-07-03-515).

If there is an incoming telephone call while SVS (Voice Input System) is active it is not possible to accept or reject the call.

A loud humming noise can be heard from the auxiliary fan when the vehicle is idling.

The automatic transmission enters "Failsafe" mode during a 5-4 downshift. EGS fault "AF8D – ratio monitoring 5-4 gearshift plausibility" is stored.

CCC: The programmable diamond MFL button does not work when set to "Next entertainment source" when vehicle is in motion.

CCC: The customer occasionally has poor radio reception after the vehicle was programmed with Progman V23.x or V24.x.

The speedometer and tachometer needles shake when the vehicle is idling.

CCC: Slow response to inputs made when using controller after startup.

CCC: A high frequency whistling noise intermittently can been heard in radio mode

CCC: Navigation system pop-up arrow display missing. Refer to SI B84 61 06.

CCC: CD/CDC track advances after key cycled. Refer to SI B65 32 05.

SDARS (Satellite radio) receiver fault "A537 – Sat aerial short circuit" is stored.

The following software errors were corrected with the release of Progman 24.00.00 (Target data Status E89x-06-12-510).

[ScBlacksunshine]

Originally Posted by cobradac

You really need to be sure your dealers or you are not truncating the PROGMAN version numbers and use Target data Status numbers where ever possible. Most likely all thos claiming 25.02 or 25. 03 or 25.04 are really referring to 25.00.01 .... 25.00.04. Now 25.01.00 is out.

SI B 61 03 05
General Electrical Systems April 2007
Technical Service

This Service Information bulletin supersedes S.I. B61 03 05 dated March 2007.

designates changes to this revision

SUBJECT
Software Errors Corrected with Progman


MODEL
E90, E91, E92, E93 (3 Series)

Vehicles produced up to March 30, 2007


SITUATION
Customer may complain of the following:

The following software errors were corrected with the release of Progman 25.01.00 (Target data Status E89x-07-03-520). Only software errors that are corrected with the last 2 Progman versions will be listed.

CCC (Car Communication Computer) equipped vehicle, the SDARS (Satellite Radio) stored station list is intermittently empty since programming with Progman V25.00.00.

Poor RTTI (Real Time Traffic Information) reception. The CID (Central Information Display) is constantly displaying "Transferring Messages" since programming with Progman V25.00.00.

After vehicle programming PDC (Park Distance Control) FC 9e28 is stored. Carry out a power cycle (ignition Off/On) and clear the fault memory.

The following software errors were corrected with the release of Progman 25.00.00 (Target data Status E89x-07-03-515).

If there is an incoming telephone call while SVS (Voice Input System) is active it is not possible to accept or reject the call.

A loud humming noise can be heard from the auxiliary fan when the vehicle is idling.

The automatic transmission enters "Failsafe" mode during a 5-4 downshift. EGS fault "AF8D – ratio monitoring 5-4 gearshift plausibility" is stored.

CCC: The programmable diamond MFL button does not work when set to "Next entertainment source" when vehicle is in motion.

CCC: The customer occasionally has poor radio reception after the vehicle was programmed with Progman V23.x or V24.x.

The speedometer and tachometer needles shake when the vehicle is idling.

CCC: Slow response to inputs made when using controller after startup.

CCC: A high frequency whistling noise intermittently can been heard in radio mode

CCC: Navigation system pop-up arrow display missing. Refer to SI B84 61 06.

CCC: CD/CDC track advances after key cycled. Refer to SI B65 32 05.

SDARS (Satellite radio) receiver fault "A537 – Sat aerial short circuit" is stored.

The following software errors were corrected with the release of Progman 24.00.00 (Target data Status E89x-06-12-510).

Good stuff, thanks

[cdp1276]

Originally Posted by ScBlacksunshine

Good stuff, thanks

I second that but disappointing not to see them publish a fix for the VR yet...

[SteveMD]

Yes except no mention of the VR issue. I assume therefore that whatever activation codes for VR are somehow included?

I'm calling my service dude tomorrow. My iDrive locked up in a major way this evening.

[CnoteMD]

Here is my own personal list of changes I've noticed since upgrading to Progman 25. This may be useful for anyone contemplating this update.

-Voice Recognition was initially disabled (it is now functioning)
-Graphics have a bit more contrast
-iDrive response is noticeably faster
-After "lawyer screen" is auto-accepted, iDrive automatically goes back to the last screen used.
-Navigation destination input will now recognize state name (but I still have to spell the city name and street name)
-Points of Interest can now be searched by name (and also can specify search radius)
-My auto-recirculation finally works!!! (I drove into the Lincoln Tunnel behind a bus and didn't have to press the recirc button manually as I would normally need to).
-Faster throttle response

Overall, I would say this update is one of the more substantial updates since my initial update for mp3 capability. The only drawback is the initial bugs that seem to be associated with these updates.

[BK]

Originally Posted by CnoteMD

Here is my own personal list of changes I've noticed since upgrading to Progman 25. This may be useful for anyone contemplating this update.

Good info. I'm looking forward to it, although I am going to wait a while because it's not all that critical for me right now. Maybe I'll ask for it with my first free oil change (not until July).

Can you describe the better throttle response? Meaning no delay when you mash the throttle, or that the gas pedal is "touchier" (you have to press down less)?

[InfamousM3]

Are these updates free because the Service guy told me I would have to pay for the amount of hours it takes for them to upload it into my car?? Also he claims if anything crashes or goes wrong i am responsible to pay out of pocket??

[CnoteMD]

Originally Posted by BK

Can you describe the better throttle response? Meaning no delay when you mash the throttle, or that the gas pedal is "touchier" (you have to press down less)?

I never experienced a delay when I pressed the throttle, but it is a bit "touchier". There seems to be more throttle response for each degree the pedal is depressed. It reminds me of the change you get when you press the "sport" button on an E46 M3 (though less dramatic).

But I should mention, my car seemed to have less throttle response after one of the previous software updates (I think it was version 19, when I got mp3 capability).

[SteveMD]

Originally Posted by infamous335i

Are these updates free because the Service guy told me I would have to pay for the amount of hours it takes for them to upload it into my car?? Also he claims if anything crashes or goes wrong i am responsible to pay out of pocket??

No they are not free but if you have a complaint adressed by the update...

[MusicMan]

Originally Posted by cdp1276

I second that but disappointing not to see them publish a fix for the VR yet...

I am also disappointed with the missing VR fix.