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      06-10-2015, 07:30 AM   #1
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Brake sensor question

Ok...so there are a lot of posts around whether the brake sensors on the e90 are accurate, but the overwhelming recommendation is usually to wait until the red lift and word brake show up and stay on. I have that so my question is...how long do I have before I need to replace the brakes...today, tomorrow, when I can get an appt, or a couple thousand miles? The reason why I is that I have had the car into the dealer twice this year. Once in January for the VANOS recall where they said that the brakes were fine and once last week for an oil change. the last visit the topic of brakes was brought up as the CBS had a record of 180 miles for the front and 3700 for the rear. I mentioned that I had been in within the last 4k miles and that they had given the brake system a clean bill of health and their response was that they would check it out. They did and noted that the inner pad had worn slightly faster than the outer pad and that they would recommend service the next time I was in (assuming that meant a few thousand miles at the next oil change). They reset the rear brake sensor but not the front (assuming it had broken through the first "stage." they didn't reset for the oil change either so maybe it was an oversight. Either way, the counter kept going down and about 200 miles later the light when on (pretty accurate). Is this just a function of the counter going to zero and I should head the dealers recommendation to wait until the next service or do I need to address this right away?
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      06-10-2015, 12:04 PM   #2
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The CBS is an estimate based on your driving. I've noticed that even though the sensors are tripped you still have atleast half padding left on the pad.. Trouble is as they have mentioned the inner pads wear faster than outer. Inner pad worn to rotor now becomes another thing you will have to replace. So you are kinda in borrowed time.

I say you getting them changed in 500mi or so.
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No worries, you've got plenty of time. I say at least 500 to 1,000 miles. Worst case they'll eat the rotors a bit, but you should replace the rotors and pads as a set anyway. And go to a BMW indy, not the dealer for brakes. The dealer will over charge you. The inner pad always wears a bit faster than the outer pad because the piston is on the inside of the caliper.
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No worries, you've got plenty of time. I say at least 500 to 1,000 miles. Worst case they'll eat the rotors a bit, but you should replace the rotors and pads as a set anyway. And go to a BMW indy, not the dealer for brakes. The dealer will over charge you. The inner pad always wears a bit faster than the outer pad because the piston is on the inside of the caliper.
Had planned on going to an Indy but they want 650 to do a job the dealer will do for 450.
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No worries, you've got plenty of time. I say at least 500 to 1,000 miles. Worst case they'll eat the rotors a bit, but you should replace the rotors and pads as a set anyway. And go to a BMW indy, not the dealer for brakes. The dealer will over charge you. The inner pad always wears a bit faster than the outer pad because the piston is on the inside of the caliper.
Had planned on going to an Indy but they want 650 to do a job the dealer will do for 450.
Do this job yourself.....it's so easy a caveman could do it.....(geico reference)
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Approx 1k miles is left when the indicator is red. Not super precise, but you should be fine delaying by that amount. Beware that brake performance starts to notably deteriorate at that point (not so much 1 stop performance, but overheat becomes plausible), so drive accordingly.
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      06-11-2015, 09:56 AM   #7
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Had planned on going to an Indy but they want 650 to do a job the dealer will do for 450.
Dealer it is. Does that include new rotors?
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      06-11-2015, 04:26 PM   #8
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yes. $234 for pads and sensor. $469 for rotors, pads and sensor

http://www.caseybmw.com/BMW-Value-Service
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That's a f'ing deal. Wouldn't even consider an indy for the job then.
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Make sure the dealer quote is for all 4, it is a typical dealer quote for an axle, the 400 figure, while the 600 at the indy is typical indy for 2 axles. If the dealer does it for 400, 4 wheels, its the deal of the century, buying parts and DIY is more expensive than that.
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The last time I did brakes in July 2012, I paid $350 for BMW OE front brake parts from Tischer shipping included. The rear set was $306. So $469 for dealer labor is a good deal IMO.
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that is for the front only. My rears are fine and are $445 for rotors and pads and $183 for pads only. Isn't the value service thing at all dealerships?
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