[ik999]

Saturday, June 7, 2008


it's nice to see some light shed on the 'other side' of the argument.

discuss

[SGxi]

Here's the article:

http://wheels.ca/reviews/article/254306

[MechUT]

I'm of a firm belief that, if we drove and enforced lane discipline, there would hardly ever be an occasion where one was able to weave through traffic, and never be an occasion where it would serve any benefit.

[flush01]

why can't people understand that it's a BUSINESS for the government !!! if they raise speed limit to 130 on the highway HOW are they going to make money? it's all about making money for them, NOTHING else...

[JunkStory]

Speed limits should be raised to 60km/h for cities and 120km/h for highways.

[decx]

Originally Posted by JunkStory

Speed limits should be raised to 60km/h for cities and 120km/h for highways.

The strange thing I've found about Vancouver is that the main city streets all have a limit of 50km/h which is rather slow. I do agree it should be raised to 60km since others cities already use the same limit (like Toronto) without any issues. In Toronto 50km/h is the default limit but the majority of the time it's only used in local streets as arteries all have signs that modify the limit.

As for highways (well for the 400 series anyways), the limit should definitely be raised to 130 since that's the average speed anyways. A while back a UofT researcher actually did a study which supported such a change.

http://www.magazine.utoronto.ca/02summer/roads.asp

[achien]

The only way we will see safer roads is to send 80% of our licensed drivers to the "Canada's Worst Drivers" show.

[T i h o r]

I don't suppose we could use this to justify why we were driving at +120km/h next time we get booked do you?

[Two Sheds]

From what little I've read of Jim Kenzie I haven't agreed with, but on the whole I agree with this article from him. The point I agree with most in this article is how the inside lane (certainly in the GTA) constantly appears, disappears, gets filtered off. I think this is one of the main reasons why people pull out of the inside lane as soon as entering the highway since they know they will have to pull out of it 2km up the road and then back into it, back out etc.

As for speed limits I do agree that most of the 400's could be up to 120 or 130 and some of the country lanes up from 80 to 100. It seems even the police agree it should be 120 since they very rarely seem to bother pulling you over for doing 120.

[RBP]

Jim Kenzie is an idiot.

[ians]

I am sure once the limit up to 120km/hr then everyone will drive at least @ 140km/hr

[MechUT]

Well, that's fine, because the current situation has two problems:

If the lawful limit is 100, and the unofficial limit is 120, if you are pulled over for doing 140 right now, you are charged with 40 over. Not really fair, because everyone is going 120.
If the limit was 120, you would be charged with going 20 over, which is more sensible, given how fast everyone is driving. The punishement then fits the crime.

Secondly, right now we have a grey law, which creates a problem, just like drinking and driving laws. A seatbelt law is black and white - no seat belt, you get a ticket. Speeding laws are grey. 100 is the limit right now, so almost everyone is breaking the law. This makes it socially acceptable, and the grey area comes in because who knows how far you have to break it to get caught and charged? Some times it is past 120, sometimes it is past 130.

Similarly, because you can have a blood alcohol level of 0.08, you can drink and drive. You just can't drink too much. But how much is too much? Again, a grey area that makes breaking the law acceptable... just don't break it too much.