[Dmacc]

A few days ago I posted a thread about my car's problems running the 5-23 Aggressive maps. I was on 91 Octane, my car's mods include DCI, catback, and PROcede Rev 2.5. I was hitting the fuel ceiling as you can see in this log below:

OL was set to 100%, overboost dropped to 16 from 18psi


I went to FFTEC yesterday and had my car flashed with the new PROcedeFlash by Vishnu. Here is a log of the car with the new flash, set to 18psi, and OL set to 100%


As you can see, OL set that high was way too rich, I was seeing 9:1 afrs at one point. So I dropped OL down to 50% and here is my log after doing so:


The flash helped my car out significantly! no more fuel ceiling being smacked into on my crappy 91 octane, tomorrow I will be running a 50/50 e85 mix with the new flash and I will post some logs of how the car is running then.

Thanks for reading.

[Joshboody]

Op can ypu rescale the AFR by hitting p and setting 10 to 20 min/max.

[benzy89]

PROcede Flash, aka what COBB, GIAC, Evolve & some other companies have been doing from Day 1

[pits200]

Dme flash is different than a flash tune. So does this mean Cobb tune can also flash tcu logic since your saying flash tunes change dme parameters, why not the tcu.

[CaptainInsano]

Originally Posted by benzy89

PROcede Flash, aka what COBB, GIAC, Evolve & some other companies have been doing from Day 1

stacking flash + piggyback: everyone's doing it

[OpenFlash]

Originally Posted by benzy89

PROcede Flash, aka what COBB, GIAC, Evolve & some other companies have been doing from Day 1

Not quite

[Laguna Seca Blue]

Originally Posted by benzy89

PROcede Flash, aka what COBB, GIAC, Evolve & some other companies have been doing from Day 1

Dude, you really need to quit trolling.

[Dmacc]

Originally Posted by benzy89

PROcede Flash, aka what COBB, GIAC, Evolve & some other companies have been doing from Day 1

Yes, it is a flash, but with a piggy also in the mix. I don't think COBB, GIAC, Evolve & other companies have been doing this.

[Dmacc]

Originally Posted by Joshboody

Op can ypu rescale the AFR by hitting p and setting 10 to 20 min/max.

Josh, I no longer have the first datalog showing 100% OL before the flash, but I updated the other two logs with AFR scaled accordingly.

[benzy89]

Originally Posted by CaptainInsano

stacking flash + piggyback: everyone's doing it

Originally Posted by Laguna Seca Blue

Dude, you really need to quit trolling.

Sippin' on the Kool Aid

[enrita]

Originally Posted by pits200

Dme flash is different than a flash tune. So does this mean Cobb tune can also flash tcu logic since your saying flash tunes change dme parameters, why not the tcu.

Same thing, flash is a flash.
Only Alpina has flashed the TCU so far.

[Ænema]

Ohh the irony...

[OpenFlash]

Originally Posted by Ænema

The flash is a bench load at FFTEC. There needs to be a flash because there is only so much O2 sensor biasing can do.

When we have the car in front of us, we don't bench flash the DME. We simply flash the DME through the diagnostic port. Only DMEs that are sent to us get bench flashed. Either method takes approx 1.5hr to read and write.

The reason we do this is to give the user more flexibility when it comes to running higher boost pressures while running fuels with higher ethanol concentrations. In the case of the ProcedeFlash+Procede, running 100% e85 is now possible. This is a little different than the usual tune stacking approach since the ProcedeFlash alone runs stock-like boost, timing, AFR and fuel pressures. Which means the Procede is still in charge of tuning through its usual arsenal of features (CPS offsetting, wideband biasing, OL fuel adjustments, etc). The only difference is that, with the ProcedeFlash, you can run lower OL fuel values.

[enrita]

so you increased load to make the dme push more fuel and the procede keeps boost to stock levels ?

[OpenFlash]

Originally Posted by enrita

so you increased load to make the dme push more fuel and the procede keeps boost to stock levels ?

Nope. With the Procede removed (or in valet mode) and boost being coontrolled by the ProcedeFlashed DME, boost levels are stock-like 6-10psi. You only see high boost with the Procede installed.

[FirstBMWLA]

Originally Posted by Drewby

thanks, but you didn't answer any of my questions :beerchug:

Actually I did.
You asked why the need for flash?
I gave you a reason why it's being used.

[NiVeDh]

Any way to get this without having to ship my DME over to you? I have a lot of experience with flashing and programming control units so I'll take full responsibility for anything that could go wrong.

[OpenFlash]

Originally Posted by NiVeDh

Any way to get this without having to ship my DME over to you? I have a lot of experience with flashing and programming control units so I'll take full responsibility for anything that could go wrong.

There will eventually be an at-home flashing option. But it is not yet available. And I dont have a very definite ETA on it. So mailing the DME to us is the only option at this time. We do same day turnaround to minimize downtime.

[import36]

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

There will eventually be an at-home flashing option. But it is not yet available. And I dont have a very definite ETA on it. So mailing the DME to us is the only option at this time. We do same day turnaround to minimize downtime.

when's the official release for the flexfuel kit....i'm interested.

[spool twice]

Logs look clean. The flash definitely helped with your fuel trims.

[Laguna Seca Blue]

Originally Posted by benzy89

Sippin' on the Kool Aid

I love how you edited your post twice. The first time was a failed attempt to post some presumably disparaging image that didn't show up. After that fail, you wrote this ( a day later, I might add)

When it comes down to it, numbers talk and bullshit walks. What Cobb has done with it's new E85 maps is awesome to a degree, but there are no built in failsafes which is highly concerning. Also, FBO to FBO car, they're at least 50 horsepower behind. The Procede with a flash to increase fueling limitations is clearly the safest, most flexible, and powerful solution available.

You'll find that when you're looking at facts and not calling people names, your lips are bright red.

[Ænema]

Originally Posted by Laguna Seca Blue

I love how you edited your post twice. The first time was a failed attempt to post some presumably disparaging image that didn't show up. After that fail, you wrote this ( a day later, I might add)

When it comes down to it, numbers talk and bullshit walks. What Cobb has done with it's new E85 maps is awesome to a degree, but there are no built in failsafes which is highly concerning. Also, FBO to FBO car, they're at least 50 horsepower behind. The Procede with a flash to increase fueling limitations is clearly the safest, most flexible, and powerful solution available.

You'll find that when you're looking at facts and not calling people names, your lips are bright red.

Comparing numbers from different dynos is pointless, especially when they are provided by the people trying to push their product. I'll hold off on any judgments until I see independent dynos from both sides. Or even better VBOX data.