Whats the point w. tune if...

DgtlBullet · 03-25-2012, 08:45 AM

There seems to be numerous issues with misfires, error codes and stallings. I just dont get it. Couple runs and thats it.

tpipta · 03-25-2012, 08:49 AM

My 335i was fine for 2 years with zero problems.

JamesM3M5 · 03-25-2012, 08:54 AM

Because a stock 335 is slow compared to a tuned one. If you don't get it, then don't bother with the upgrade. If you are inclined to upgrade, then a tune is a huge performance boost for a low nominal cost.

Szemenyei · 03-25-2012, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by DgtlBullet

There seems to be numerous issues with misfires, error codes and stallings. I just dont get it. Couple runs and thats it.

If you think about it just like with everything else in life, few people will come onto the forums and be like "OH WOW THIS IS WORKING AMAZING I AM SO HAPPY!" people would only really come on and post about complaints that they have in order to have other peoples input provided.

ppatel223 · 03-25-2012, 09:08 AM

One can get into accident - fatal or minor - your fault or opposite, what is the point of driving?

daMau · 03-25-2012, 09:36 AM

Also tuned for over a year, now with DCI + DPs, car continues to run like a champ with 0 issues.

Jeff@TopGearSolutions · 03-25-2012, 09:37 AM

Misfire issues are from users not maintaining their vehicles properly. Error codes are from not using the tune properly. Not sure what you mean about stalling but I guess they cant drive stick too well. Sounds like all the problems you think are from tunes stem from the end user. Perhaps a little more research will shed the light that 99% users are trouble free and enjoying their car daily for years. If you have any questions I can direct you to tunes that will run properly with no problems.

Rotorocious · 03-25-2012, 10:01 AM

If you had to ask your in the wrong car. Go get a Prius

TT3 iN NyC · 03-25-2012, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Rotorocious

If you had to ask your in the wrong car. Go get a Prius

Lol +1

I've been fully modded for about a year and half now. No issues at all.

PR3CI5N · 03-25-2012, 10:09 AM

Wouldn't enjoy driving my 335i half as much if it was wasn't tuned! Only way to go IMO.

BobS · 03-25-2012, 10:21 AM

That's like saying why buy a 335 with all the HPFP issues? People have honestly passed on this car bc of the problems they read about....go on any car forum, they are all full of questions with issues the owners are having....

The 335 is one of the best tuner cars ever IMO....don't let some threads about various issues scare you. There are plenty of owners here with little to no issues at all.

GeorgiaTech335coupe · 03-25-2012, 10:45 AM

After having my car FBO+meth, I could never drive it stock again. Tune it, and you'll see.

zeel · 03-25-2012, 10:55 AM

Only problem i had was my hpfp dying while stock. Once tune+ fbo no issues at all even with autox and drag strip days.

skim7x · 03-25-2012, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by DgtlBullet

There seems to be numerous issues with misfires, error codes and stallings. I just dont get it. Couple runs and thats it.

Isn't that the way of most major contributions to humanity?

I'm not saying that n54 tuning is going to save the world or anything, but it's human nature to want to improve and explore possibilities and that can never be done without some hiccups or even failures.

If you want to be a follower, so be it. I commends these guys for doing the work they do and the ingenuity they bring.

BEAR-AvHistory · 03-25-2012, 11:37 AM

6 months, two firmware upgrades & all is still well at 7800 miles. Would expect to do the plugs at 25/30K miles.

Deadwrong · 03-25-2012, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeff@topgearsolutions

Error codes are from not using the tune properly.

This statement is just down right stupid....

Cobb is admittedly having issues with cars running I8A0S software throwing P03FF codes...

Randomaccess335 · 03-25-2012, 12:09 PM

My cars at BMW again.......for DME, before that water pump, before that ww pump, before that DCT pump, before that a solenoid all not related to my tune. But if my tune caused all of this .......... It would still be worth it. By far

marv85 · 03-25-2012, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Deadwrong

This statement is just down right stupid....

Cobb is admittedly having issues with cars running I8A0S software throwing P03FF codes...

Your statement is also incorrect. I have I8A0S and been running COBB since their AP/tune was introduced. I did not get even one P30FF code! not even once in the past 25k that i've driven the car with the tune, and believe me I drive hard! I'm also one of the first to update to newer beta maps and i'm currently running Stage2+ sport v4.00 with no issues

I can't blame the hardware in cars running different software because there may be some issue with the COBB coding on those. And COBB said these are BETA maps and may not perform as requested until they are further refined.

However, I can say that people running I8A0S with issues have their car's hardware to blame.

on a side note, are you running COBB?

skinrock · 03-25-2012, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Deadwrong

This statement is just down right stupid....

Cobb is admittedly having issues with cars running I8A0S software throwing P03FF codes...

Which one is P03FF? Because I just searched the forum for that code and the only other mention of it is you stating you're still getting it as of yesterday and didn't know how to email Cobb about it. I'm wondering where the "admittedly" part is coming from.

I am running I8A0S and the only actual code I've had was a misfire which was simply resolved by changing my plugs.

tscdennab · 03-25-2012, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DgtlBullet

There seems to be numerous issues with misfires, error codes and stallings. I just dont get it. Couple runs and thats it.

Get JB4, GIAC or Dinan and don't crank up your boost to 19psi and you won't have these issues.

rader1 · 03-25-2012, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by skinrock

Which one is P03FF? Because I just searched the forum for that code and the only other mention of it is you stating you're still getting it as of yesterday and didn't know how to email Cobb about it. I'm wondering where the "admittedly" part is coming from.

I am running I8A0S and the only actual code I've had was a misfire which was simply resolved by changing my plugs.

P30FF is an underboost code, AKA "boost leak."

Back on topic: i've been runing COBB for just under 20K miles and no issues. If you do your maintance as required then your car should have no problems. If you don't want to have to maintain your car as it should be then the problem isn't with the tune, the problem is you.

marv85 · 03-25-2012, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by rader1

P30FF is an underboost code, AKA "boost leak."

Back on topic: i've been runing COBB for just under 20K miles and no issues. If you do your maintance as required then your car should have no problems. If you don't want to have to maintain your car as it should be then the problem isn't with the tune, the problem is you.

+1

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DgtlBullet New Member 3 Rep 8 Posts Drives: BMW 335i Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: VA iTrader: (0)	Whats the point w. tune if... There seems to be numerous issues with misfires, error codes and stallings. I just dont get it. Couple runs and thats it.
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JamesM3M5 Some dude 92 Rep 1,780 Posts Drives: E92 335i Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Northern VA iTrader: (0)	Because a stock 335 is slow compared to a tuned one. If you don't get it, then don't bother with the upgrade. If you are inclined to upgrade, then a tune is a huge performance boost for a low nominal cost. __________________ RRT E92 335i/6MT with stuff and things
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ppatel223 Banned 31 Rep 372 Posts Drives: F10 I3.0 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: AR iTrader: (0)	One can get into accident - fatal or minor - your fault or opposite, what is the point of driving?
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daMau Second Lieutenant 44 Rep 238 Posts Drives: F80 M3 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Minneapolis, MN iTrader: (0)	Also tuned for over a year, now with DCI + DPs, car continues to run like a champ with 0 issues.
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Jeff@TopGearSolutions 3441 Rep 79,211 Posts Drives: C6 Z06, 09 335i, 10 335xi Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: www.TopGearSolutions.com iTrader: (37)	Misfire issues are from users not maintaining their vehicles properly. Error codes are from not using the tune properly. Not sure what you mean about stalling but I guess they cant drive stick too well. Sounds like all the problems you think are from tunes stem from the end user. Perhaps a little more research will shed the light that 99% users are trouble free and enjoying their car daily for years. If you have any questions I can direct you to tunes that will run properly with no problems.
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BobS Colonel 97 Rep 2,002 Posts Drives: M3 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Southern NJ iTrader: (0)	That's like saying why buy a 335 with all the HPFP issues? People have honestly passed on this car bc of the problems they read about....go on any car forum, they are all full of questions with issues the owners are having.... The 335 is one of the best tuner cars ever IMO....don't let some threads about various issues scare you. There are plenty of owners here with little to no issues at all. __________________ ESS 650 ACM-R Upgrades
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