E90Post
 


 
BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum > E90 / E92 / E93 3-series Powertrain and Drivetrain Discussions > N54 Turbo Engine / Drivetrain / Exhaust Modifications - 335i > BMW N54 AccessPORT Beta Race Fuel and E-30 Maps



Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      09-17-2012, 02:02 PM   #177
Fully_Bolted
Banned
11
Rep
442
Posts

Drives: E92 335i
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: USA

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by JStang View Post
I am mixing 93 octane with E85. I put 5 gallons into my tank followed by filling up with 93 octane from Shell. 5 / 16.2 = 30.864%. I understand that 93 from shell contains "up to" 10% ethanol so maybe I have too much ethanol.

I assume that it is better to err on the side of too much ethanol versus too little, no?
Yeah, rather more than less. Your fuel trims look fine.
Appreciate 0
      09-17-2012, 02:53 PM   #178
JStang
Brigadier General
JStang's Avatar
561
Rep
3,625
Posts

Drives: FDB M3 CS
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: St. Petersburg, FL

iTrader: (9)

FYI, a guy local to me just got his 135i pro-tuned for E50 and put down 421 whp / 505 TQ on a Mustang Dyno. Those are some serious numbers!!
Appreciate 0
      09-17-2012, 03:17 PM   #179
Fully_Bolted
Banned
11
Rep
442
Posts

Drives: E92 335i
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: USA

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by JStang View Post
FYI, a guy local to me just got his 135i pro-tuned for E50 and put down 421 whp / 505 TQ on a Mustang Dyno. Those are some serious numbers!!
are those the actual dyno numbers or mustang dyno numbers corrected 12% for comparable dynojet numbers?
Appreciate 0
      09-17-2012, 03:30 PM   #180
JStang
Brigadier General
JStang's Avatar
561
Rep
3,625
Posts

Drives: FDB M3 CS
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: St. Petersburg, FL

iTrader: (9)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fully_Bolted View Post
are those the actual dyno numbers or mustang dyno numbers corrected 12% for comparable dynojet numbers?
Those were taken directly from the dyno sheet. I just noticed that it was a 1M though.
Appreciate 0
      09-17-2012, 06:54 PM   #181
Dmacc
Colonel
200
Rep
2,799
Posts

Drives: 2011 BMW 1M
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: So Cal

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by JStang View Post
Those were taken directly from the dyno sheet. I just noticed that it was a 1M though.
It being a 1M shouldn't make any difference.
__________________

thanks to MGallop
Appreciate 0
      09-17-2012, 07:52 PM   #182
JStang
Brigadier General
JStang's Avatar
561
Rep
3,625
Posts

Drives: FDB M3 CS
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: St. Petersburg, FL

iTrader: (9)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dmacc View Post
It being a 1M shouldn't make any difference.
The 1M is rated at 340 hp from the factory.
Appreciate 0
      09-17-2012, 08:00 PM   #183
Dmacc
Colonel
200
Rep
2,799
Posts

Drives: 2011 BMW 1M
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: So Cal

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by JStang View Post
The 1M is rated at 340 hp from the factory.
Yes, from the OEM DME tuning's Overboost function
__________________

thanks to MGallop
Appreciate 0
      09-17-2012, 08:07 PM   #184
JStang
Brigadier General
JStang's Avatar
561
Rep
3,625
Posts

Drives: FDB M3 CS
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: St. Petersburg, FL

iTrader: (9)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dmacc View Post
Yes, from the OEM DME tuning's Overboost function
Gotcha. So other than the factory tune, the n54 hardware is the same?
Appreciate 0
      09-17-2012, 08:34 PM   #185
Dmacc
Colonel
200
Rep
2,799
Posts

Drives: 2011 BMW 1M
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: So Cal

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by JStang View Post
Gotcha. So other than the factory tune, the n54 hardware is the same?
As far as I know, the N54is that is in the 1M and the 335is has an upgraded cooling fan, and the overboost function which allows for hitting 11psi in the mid range for a few seconds then tapers off
__________________

thanks to MGallop
Appreciate 0
      09-17-2012, 10:45 PM   #186
VNeBLOB42
Lieutenant Colonel
VNeBLOB42's Avatar
United_States
50
Rep
1,677
Posts

Drives: 14' GMC Terrain SLT-2
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Folsom, Ca

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
007 335i E92  [7.66]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fully_Bolted View Post
Yeah, rather more than less. Your fuel trims look fine.
+1,

But of course not too much more.
__________________

SOLD:: PTF Pro eTune by Dzenno / COBB S1+ E50
Alpina B3 Flash / ETS FMIC / ER CP / CPE DCI
Appreciate 0
      09-18-2012, 02:11 AM   #187
enrita
Major General
enrita's Avatar
Sweden
159
Rep
7,378
Posts

Drives: 335i - Big turbos
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Italian in Sweden

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dmacc View Post
As far as I know, the N54is that is in the 1M and the 335is has an upgraded cooling fan, and the overboost function which allows for hitting 11psi in the mid range for a few seconds then tapers off
exactly, same engine and same power.
__________________
07 335i AT - MOTIV 750 - MHD E85 BMS flash - BMS PI - JB4G5 - Okada Coils - NGK 5992 Plugs - Helix IC - Snow Stg. 3 - Stett CP - Custom midpipes with 100 HJS Cats - Bastuck Quad - PSS10 - QUAIFE LSD - BMS OCC - Forge DVs - AR OC - ALCON BBK - M3 Chassi - Dinan CP - Velocity M rear Toe arms - Advan RZ-DF - LUX H8 - Level 10 AT upgrade
Appreciate 0
      09-18-2012, 07:55 AM   #188
JStang
Brigadier General
JStang's Avatar
561
Rep
3,625
Posts

Drives: FDB M3 CS
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: St. Petersburg, FL

iTrader: (9)

Quote:
Originally Posted by enrita View Post
exactly, same engine and same power.
Well that's encouraging. I am going to the same shop for my protune and was planning on getting tuned for 40% E85. Might want to bump it up to 50%.
Appreciate 0
      09-18-2012, 09:20 AM   #189
Fully_Bolted
Banned
11
Rep
442
Posts

Drives: E92 335i
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: USA

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by JStang View Post
Well that's encouraging. I am going to the same shop for my protune and was planning on getting tuned for 40% E85. Might want to bump it up to 50%.
Based on your log i would suggest replacing your Low pressure fuel pump before you go for big numbers on a high ethanol %. Its having trouble keeping up already.
Appreciate 0
      09-18-2012, 09:28 AM   #190
JStang
Brigadier General
JStang's Avatar
561
Rep
3,625
Posts

Drives: FDB M3 CS
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: St. Petersburg, FL

iTrader: (9)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fully_Bolted View Post
Based on your log i would suggest replacing your Low pressure fuel pump before you go for big numbers on a high ethanol %. Its having trouble keeping up already.
I am going to log a few more times to see if the LPFP is still acting up. I just haven't had a chance this week.
Appreciate 0
      10-07-2012, 05:09 AM   #191
sparkyblue
Captain
sparkyblue's Avatar
United_States
64
Rep
760
Posts

Drives: E82 135i & F80 M3
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: USA

iTrader: (8)

Garage List
2008 BMW 135i  [0.00]


Pretty happy with this E-30 tune. Running 50/50 E85 & CALI 91 Octane. Data logs will be posted later.
Appreciate 0
      10-10-2012, 10:24 AM   #192
raceyBMW
king of the hills
raceyBMW's Avatar
91
Rep
2,915
Posts

Drives: 2011 M3 w/ESS55, 2001 540i/6
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Arvada, CO

iTrader: (1)

Garage List
2001 BMW 540i/6  [8.17]
1994 530i  [9.00]
2007 335i Coupe  [8.37]
I will be running the race gas map at the drag strip tonight for the first time (I will have at least 100oct in there). I have all the necessary supporting mods (HPF FMIC, AR Catless DPs, Intake).

From the directions, it looks like the only thing on the race gas map I need to keep an eye on is the timing drops. Since I will not be able to review my logs until I get home after the session, is there anything in particular I should be monitoring during the runs to make sure the map is not too aggressive for me, especially at 5800' altitude?
Appreciate 0
      10-10-2012, 10:26 AM   #193
marv85
Colonel
marv85's Avatar
70
Rep
2,626
Posts

Drives: '07 E92 335i MT
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Bay Area

iTrader: (7)

Quote:
Originally Posted by raceyBMW View Post
I will be running the race gas map at the drag strip tonight for the first time (I will have at least 100oct in there). I have all the necessary supporting mods (HPF FMIC, AR Catless DPs, Intake).

From the directions, it looks like the only thing on the race gas map I need to keep an eye on is the timing drops. Since I will not be able to review my logs until I get home after the session, is there anything in particular I should be monitoring during the runs to make sure the map is not too aggressive for me, especially at 5800' altitude?
I would log before taking the car to the strip. Have your laptop with you and check your logs to make sure your car is liking it.
__________________
'07 E92 335i 6MT- HP650, inlets/outlets, ER FMIC, VRSF CP, LPFP stg2, CSF rad, 'is Aux rad, ER OC, Ohlins, M control arms, eibach front sway bar.
'05 C55 AMG
SOLD - '22 Tesla M3P | '10 E92 335i M, 6MT COBB, FBO, st2 LPFP, Mfactory LSD | '07 E90 335i, PTF COBB E50, FBO, HFS4
Appreciate 0
      10-10-2012, 11:59 PM   #194
raceyBMW
king of the hills
raceyBMW's Avatar
91
Rep
2,915
Posts

Drives: 2011 M3 w/ESS55, 2001 540i/6
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Arvada, CO

iTrader: (1)

Garage List
2001 BMW 540i/6  [8.17]
1994 530i  [9.00]
2007 335i Coupe  [8.37]
Ran at the dragstrip tonight with the race map, (2 gal of 91 octane blended with 6 gal. of 104 octane). Pulled a log of my best run, 12.88s @ 110mph, which is pretty good for my altitude and a DA of 6530 ft. I think it looks pretty good overall. What do you all think?
Attached Images
 
Appreciate 0
      10-11-2012, 12:03 AM   #195
Carl Morris
Captain
19
Rep
650
Posts

Drives: 2008 335xi 6MT
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: San Jose, CA

iTrader: (0)

Am I reading it right that you had several 6.x degree timing pulls and one 10+ degree timing pull? If so I'd say you needed straight race gas or a little less aggressive timing. I know I pulled a bit here and there on the E30 map, which I think is the same timing map.
Appreciate 0
      10-11-2012, 12:35 AM   #196
harry$
Second Lieutenant
Canada
20
Rep
246
Posts

Drives: 2015 M4
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Burnaby,BC,Canada

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by raceyBMW View Post
Ran at the dragstrip tonight with the race map, (2 gal of 91 octane blended with 6 gal. of 104 octane). Pulled a log of my best run, 12.88s @ 110mph, which is pretty good for my altitude and a DA of 6530 ft. I think it looks pretty good overall. What do you all think?
Racey, It would be interesting to see how your car performed on the 2+ maps and compare them to the new race maps,I think I have seen only one other post about the new race maps were they trapped 117 witch is about the same as the 2+ maps

Any body have more track results for the new race maps?
Appreciate 0
      10-11-2012, 12:39 AM   #197
marv85
Colonel
marv85's Avatar
70
Rep
2,626
Posts

Drives: '07 E92 335i MT
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Bay Area

iTrader: (7)

Quote:
Originally Posted by raceyBMW View Post
Ran at the dragstrip tonight with the race map, (2 gal of 91 octane blended with 6 gal. of 104 octane). Pulled a log of my best run, 12.88s @ 110mph, which is pretty good for my altitude and a DA of 6530 ft. I think it looks pretty good overall. What do you all think?
Doesn't look really good. Should have went with straight race gas. Lots of timing pulls, some severe
__________________
'07 E92 335i 6MT- HP650, inlets/outlets, ER FMIC, VRSF CP, LPFP stg2, CSF rad, 'is Aux rad, ER OC, Ohlins, M control arms, eibach front sway bar.
'05 C55 AMG
SOLD - '22 Tesla M3P | '10 E92 335i M, 6MT COBB, FBO, st2 LPFP, Mfactory LSD | '07 E90 335i, PTF COBB E50, FBO, HFS4
Appreciate 0
      10-11-2012, 06:13 AM   #198
EJ_3
Colonel
EJ_3's Avatar
United_States
371
Rep
2,839
Posts

Drives: e92 335i, e34 525i & e60 530i
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: N Las Vegas

iTrader: (13)

Garage List
2007 BMW 335i  [8.34]
2016 Ram 1500 Sport  [8.00]
1994 BMW 525i  [10.00]
2007 BMW 530i  [8.66]
Quote:
Originally Posted by sparkyblue View Post


Pretty happy with this E-30 tune. Running 50/50 E85 & CALI 91 Octane. Data logs will be posted later.
Are you on an OTS map or ProTuned? If you get an intercooler, you'll could probably hit 400.
__________________
Appreciate 0
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:34 PM.




e90post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST