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Who will break an N54 first? Vishnu or Vargas ?
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Vishnu | 56 | 52.34% | |
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04-20-2013, 12:26 PM | #45 | |
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My opinion on this is, we may never know who blows an engine first, unless they volunteer this information.
Nevertheless, my bet would be on the one company who has to play catch-up, which could either be Vishnu or Vargas. I know right now it's Vishnu leading, but waiting for Vargas to take back the lead. Anyhow, while it is great both companies are pushing it, most of us would want reliability and a little margin for safety, and hence most would prefer not to run as aggressive as what is going on right now.....
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Vishnu is NOT leading. Right now, they're effectively tied until we get a major press release. Seriously, shiv beat it by 7hp on a dyno that runs notoriously high and using smoothing 0 to bump his numbers up a bit. Whether he ran better numbers or not is irrelevant, because he neglected to post them. And Vargas has already surpassed Shiv's numbers today in testing; but his final results have not been released.
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Also, no one, but us, knows how much power we really made last week. And it will say that way until we have reason to disclose it. We are in no race, as far as I know. Vargas is proving us with a very good opportunity to show why we went with a single turbo option over twins. We couldn't have done this ourselves if we wanted to. |
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04-20-2013, 07:40 PM | #54 | |
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Right now the highest posted hp numbers is Shiv's (715), and he's already said it was not his highest. So Vargas should post higher than 715 IMO. Also, let's not get into the high reading dyno game, cos this kind of tactic goes both ways, right? Don't be offended, everyone wins in the end, no need to get defensive... Edit: to be really honest, I think competition is good, but I get the feeling Tony might have started something he probably wished he could have done differently, should he not be able to deliver. But in any case, we will know soon enough where this is all going. Go Vargas! and Go Vishnu!
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04-20-2013, 08:14 PM | #56 | |
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Also, I'm already running 275's on my rears on my daily driven E92 and there are many other E92 owners running 285's.
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Single turbos are more efficient than twins but are laggier. And yea they are cheaper since there's only one. All the high hp supras go single for a reason
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04-21-2013, 12:40 AM | #59 |
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Correct, except that lag depends on how each kit can be set up. The compromises due to the tight space of N54 that needs to be made for fitting twins, is causing problems. So, the power / spool up combo is not what it would be with more space and ability to set the kit up better.
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In other words, the current single actually spools up faster than an equivilantly sized twin setup. I know this goes against current internet lore, but it seems to work that way in the real world.
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In the case of the n54, a single is much more responsive/less lag than an equivalently sized twin. There is just too much packaging compromise with fitting two big turbos in there. Also the smallish frame turbos on the twin setup aren't nearly as happy as a big single in running the high pressure ratios needed for big power (600+whp).
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04-21-2013, 07:01 AM | #65 |
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Lol. I highly doubt it. In all honesty its really hard to believe anything of what he says to some degree
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04-21-2013, 10:41 AM | #66 | |
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It wouldn't be FFTEC or Vishnu who publishes an engine failure if one were to happen on a ST car. Just because it has an FFTEC ST which is tuned by Vishnu wouldn't be a direct indicator that it caused the engine failure. How many RB cars have blown up in the past couple of years? Was it Rob's fault the cars failed or was it Terry's fault because they were running his tune? Unfortunately most people are so focused on just hating on Shiv that it would be all about Shiv causing an engine failure on a ST car and not about what really happened. So again, why would Shiv step up and say it was his tune that caused the failure? Maybe the end user didn't change the oil and was a quart down and took his car to the track and blew it up in a long sweeper, then who's to blame? Or maybe they money shifted one time too many? So what has Shiv done to make you think he wouldn't be honest? He has a business to protect and why would he be forthcoming with all the facts? He's not an end user who doesn't have any Intellectual Property to protect. Do you see people calling COBB out like they call out Shiv? Sorry, just a little disappointed in your post considering your status. |
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