[Demz760]

2009 BMW 328i - 92000 Miles.

I got an oil change today and they put 0W20 Valvoline Full Synthetic oil in.
I don't see this anywhere, it had 5W30 in it before.

Did they f**k up and should I get another oil change?





Also my serpentine belt just started squeaking recently... oil got on the belt.
Big O Tires didn't put any of the seals on the oil filter cap, last oil change and it leaked oil everywhere...),
Will I be fine replacing just the belt?

[sea6speed]

Depends on what all got soaked with oil. Have you tried spraying the oil covered parts with Simple Green or another de-greaser?

What shape is the belt in overall? New? Cracked/worn?

[VTECaddict]

It's a little thin. It probably won't harm anything as long as you change it out by 5000 miles.

Also why are you getting your oil changes at Big O Tires or whatever else chain oil change place. Take it somewhere where they use the proper oil and know how to do it so you don't have fuck ups like these.

[F22_Raptor]

I would change it out if I were you. It's probably harmless but I personally would not be able to stand the idea of oil I didn't want in my engine.

[F30lolz]

Originally Posted by Demz760

Big O Tires didn't put any of the seals on the oil filter cap, last oil change and it leaked oil everywhere...

And you still went back to them? I get $69 oil change coupon specials in the mail from my local $tealer every month using factory synthetic oil which is cheaper than any Indy shop. See how much your dealer charges, change your own oil or have a BMW indy shop do it. I've learned my lesson back in the day when Sears auto put 20w-50 in my 528e

[John 070]

imho Big O Tire is it? They should reimburse you with a Big O check--after you take the car to the dealership to set everything right. Honestly, I'm tired of the incompetent jobs that "should be ok" or "probably nothing bad will happen." It should be done right. I dunno which car uses 0W20, this isn't a Honda. And yes, 320i's use different oil than 328i's, BMW is that specific.

Oh, and the BMW dealer broke something on my car and denied. I went to the mattresses after BMWNA did nothing. Guess who won? I did.

[blackhawkk22]

Originally Posted by Demz760

Did they f**k up and should I get another oil change?

First and foremost, you should start going to a different shop. Also for less than 80 bucks (on the high end) just get another one. It might not be the end of the world but for 80 bucks you don't want to risk anything with your engine.

At least that's what I would do.

[mxchris727]

Just bring it to the dealer; they charge $70 including an inspection and a wash. Plus, you can be assured that it was done properly.

Definitely get the 0W-20 out of your engine; it's too thin.

[AllBlackBimmer]

Change your oil.

Change your serpentine belt - but do the pulley and tensioner too, you might as well. A kit that includes everything is like $80 and WELL worth it. ... If your belt snaps and pieces go into your engine and cause damage, you will never forgive yourself.

[Demz760]

The second oil change was not at Big O Tires, it was at apparently another sh**y Indy shop. Sorry I didn't clarify.

[Demz760]

I called them and they told me that 0w20 is fine for my car, and they haven't had any problems, but they are willing to change it out.

Take it somewhere where they use the proper oil and know how to do it so you don't have fuck ups like these.

Its just rough, not very many shops out here local. Most are ripoffs and do dirty work. (Ive seen a shop welded pieces together because they lost the screws.)
Ill go to a dealer, wont enjoy the drive, and like magic get a day off work.

[fun2drive]

What does you manual say? That is what to go by. Don't screw around if your belt is squealing. The likelihood of the belt slipping off into the crank then you are really screwed...

[robygomez]

Originally Posted by Demz760

2009 BMW 328i - 92000 Miles.

I got an oil change today and they put 0W20 Valvoline Full Synthetic oil in.
I don't see this anywhere, it had 5W30 in it before.

Did they f**k up and should I get another oil change?





Also my serpentine belt just started squeaking recently... oil got on the belt.
Big O Tires didn't put any of the seals on the oil filter cap, last oil change and it leaked oil everywhere...),
Will I be fine replacing just the belt?

Hi,

I think it's not the right one for your car, check your manual it might say LL-01 or LL-04 (Long life). Use any brand that would be rated with the grade indicated in your Manual.
The SAE grade like 5W-30 is less important than the LL-01 spec cause that's the BMW requirement.

GREETINGS.

[robygomez]

If you let me know what LL-X indicates your manual I might be able to recommend a couple of oil brands that would be right for your engine, but a 0W-20 grade might be to light for your car.

GREETINGS.

[Sayek]

I would change that oil ASAP. The engine can use anything between 0W30 LL04 to 0W40 LL01. (In Uk we use 0W30 LL04 due to low sulphur fuel)

0W20 is just too thin.

I assume you cant DIY the job but garage wont charge much for a simple oil change

[robygomez]

Originally Posted by Sayek

I would change that oil ASAP. The engine can use anything between 0W30 LL04 to 0W40 LL01. (In Uk we use 0W30 LL04 due to low sulphur fuel)

0W20 is just too thin.

I assume you cant DIY the job but garage wont charge much for a simple oil change

In Europe LL-04 can be used instead of LL-01 but not in America, as it's been said the fuel in America is not good enough so we are suppossed to use the LL-X grade that our manuals indicates.

GREETINGS

[Sayek]

Originally Posted by robygomez

In Europe LL-04 can be used instead of LL-01 but not in America, as it's been said the fuel in America is not good enough so we are suppossed to use the LL-X grade that our manuals indicates.

GREETINGS

Yes in USA the fuel is low quality but cheap as water compared to Europe

But the point i was making was the engine has been designed to cope with oil 0W30 to 0W40 depending on fuel quality.
The 0W20 is outside the range

[PhaseP]

0W20 is too thin and cannot be LL-01 (or 04) according to this document from BMW:

http://www.opieoils.co.uk/pdfs/BMW-O...s-and-Recs.pdf

Excerpt:
BMW longlife oils, as specified for all BMW vehicles since 1998, are tested by BMW to ensure that they
can be used anywhere in the world, at any time of year, regardless of ambient temperature. If BMW
longlife oils are used, it is therefore not necessary to keep a check on the viscosity grade. The exception
is the M47TÜ2: for SAE 5W-X oils there is a lower temperature limit of -20°C. Cold-starting difficulties
may occur at lower temperatures. In countries where outside temperatures frequently fall below -20°C,
we therefore recommend 0W instead of 5W products. BMW Longlife oils are only available in the
viscosity grades SAE 0W-30, SAE 0W-40, SAE 5W-30 and SAE 5W-40.

[STR8-6IX]

go back to the oil change shop and tell them they did not put the right oil in. companies are switching to this oil due to fuel economy and emissions regulations and it is not good for your car in warm weather. if you drive your car hard, 5w-40 would be even more ideal for you. 0w-20 is too thin to protect your bearings under high revs

[robygomez]

Originally Posted by Sayek

Yes in USA the fuel is low quality but cheap as water compared to Europe

But the point i was making was the engine has been designed to cope with oil 0W30 to 0W40 depending on fuel quality.
The 0W20 is outside the range

Totally agree with you, there is no 0W-20 SAE grade oil that woud be rated neither LL-01 nor LL-04.

[robygomez]

Originally Posted by PhaseP

0W20 is too thin and cannot be LL-01 (or 04) according to this document from BMW:

http://www.opieoils.co.uk/pdfs/BMW-O...s-and-Recs.pdf

Excerpt:
BMW longlife oils, as specified for all BMW vehicles since 1998, are tested by BMW to ensure that they
can be used anywhere in the world, at any time of year, regardless of ambient temperature. If BMW
longlife oils are used, it is therefore not necessary to keep a check on the viscosity grade. The exception
is the M47TÜ2: for SAE 5W-X oils there is a lower temperature limit of -20°C. Cold-starting difficulties
may occur at lower temperatures. In countries where outside temperatures frequently fall below -20°C,
we therefore recommend 0W instead of 5W products. BMW Longlife oils are only available in the
viscosity grades SAE 0W-30, SAE 0W-40, SAE 5W-30 and SAE 5W-40.

My point exactly, and for this case that the car is going to be driven in California the low temperature grade Xw shouldn't be an issue, as you said that would be an important thing in places that would have lower temperatures.