Robbing the e92 M3 for suspension parts

LaYzEe · 10-14-2008, 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Orb

I measure up the M3 strut bar today and it should fit so I order the parts ( http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts...61&hg=51&fg=75 ). This design is superior to any straight cross over bar from a mechanical stiffness point of view and much lighter. You need ever part of the RealOEM listed page and for item #6 you need the 12 mm bolt.

Orb

is this the M3 strut bar you ordered?

shyestsparks · 10-14-2008, 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by HP Autowerks

Nice! How is the menthanal injection coming along?

After the car comes out of the paint shop, it's gonna get installed.

Mr. 5 · 10-14-2008, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by LaYzEe

is this the M3 strut bar you ordered?

Yes!

Orb · 10-14-2008, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by HP Autowerks

I guess I must have missed it.

We have eliminated the stock tension strut as well as soon as the M3 component was available.

Perhaps I should put this together as a understeer reduce kit!

Harold

You should put a kit together. It certainly will be the most under rated upgrades one can do. It is one of the few things that set M3 apart from the 335i.

Orb

uberschnell · 10-14-2008, 10:54 PM

Excellent work Orb! As usual.

I'm sorry to say that the current economic crises has curtailed my prolific modding for the time being, but the fact that we can replicate the ever excellent suspension performance of the current M3 means that I will be able to enjoy modding my 335 for years to come

Orb · 10-14-2008, 11:44 PM

I corrected my first post as I listed the wishbone which can be changed but the key parts are tension struts.

Orb

HP Autosport · 10-15-2008, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Orb

I corrected my first post as I listed the wishbone which can be change but the key parts are tension struts.

Orb

Now we are on the same page!

Orb · 10-15-2008, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by HP Autowerks

Now we are on the same page!

I didn't realize i made such a blunder with cut and past and confused everyone.

Orb

Gen_E92 · 10-15-2008, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Orb

I didn't realize i made such a blunder with cut and past and confused everyone.

Orb

Which do you think will have bigger impact on handling...the tension strut or the rubber mounts? And what's their respective install hour? Trying to see which one to do first cost wise...

Although I don't really get the technical aspect of these things...but your advice can't go wrong

HP Autosport · 10-15-2008, 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Gen_E92

Which do you think will have bigger impact on handling...the tension strut or the rubber mounts? And what's their respective install hour? Trying to see which one to do first cost wise...

Although I don't really get the technical aspect of these things...but your advice can't go wrong

Tension struts will take about 15-30 minutes per side to do depends on your tech skill and tools used.

The rear subframe bushings, that will take you a whole day without proper tools! Even with it, it will take you a good 5-6 hours. We have done many E36/46 subframe bushings and will not do them without the proper tools.

shyestsparks · 10-15-2008, 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by HP Autowerks

Tension struts will take about 15-30 minutes per side to do depends on your tech skill and tools used.

The rear subframe bushings, that will take you a whole day without proper tools! Even with it, it will take you a good 5-6 hours. We have done many E36/46 subframe bushings and will not do them without the proper tools.

Harold, do you have an extra set of E90 M3 tension struts by any chance?

Vudoo4u2 · 10-15-2008, 03:21 AM

Being mechanically not inclined...

If I were to order the subframe bushings, and the tension struts...what would I be looking at for install costs??

(and just to be sure..the subframe bushings, and the tension struts are the only thing to add? Or was there something else)

Just trying to put this all together for myself

thanks in advance

uuni · 10-15-2008, 04:19 AM

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Originally Posted by LaYzEe

Can this be installed to E93 335i? And doesn't it have something like this already, so this would replace it or what?

Mr. 5 · 10-15-2008, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Orb

I corrected my first post as I listed the wishbone which can be changed but the key parts are tension struts.

Orb

I was curious/confused about this too.
I had realoem open at the same time, so I was looking at both but you kept talking about the wishbone.
I'm glad you caught that.

Mr. 5 · 10-15-2008, 07:27 AM

Here's the big question:
Does an alignment need to be performed if just replacing the front tension struts/wishbone ellements?

HP Autosport · 10-15-2008, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. 5

I was curious/confused about this too.
I had realoem open at the same time, so I was looking at both but you kept talking about the wishbone.
I'm glad you caught that.

I knew he meant the thrust arms(tension rods) from many posts ago...No wishbones are used on the E9X front end.

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Originally Posted by HP Autowerks
I am sure you did your home work, but you left out the front thrust arms! That is a major weak point in the 335i and can cause the car to lose much needed castor!

You mean these parts....have them.

WISHBONE, LEFT 1 31102283577
RIGHT WISHBONE 1 31102283578

Orb

Mr. 5 · 10-15-2008, 09:26 AM

What?? We do have wishbones #14.

http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts...14&hg=31&fg=05

And, what about the alignment?
Does the alignment need to be done when changing out these?

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Originally Posted by HP Autowerks

I knew he meant the thrust arms(tension rods) from many posts ago...No wishbones are used on the E9X front end.

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Originally Posted by HP Autowerks
I am sure you did your home work, but you left out the front thrust arms! That is a major weak point in the 335i and can cause the car to lose much needed castor!

You mean these parts....have them.

WISHBONE, LEFT 1 31102283577
RIGHT WISHBONE 1 31102283578

Orb

Mr. 5 · 10-15-2008, 10:38 AM

Another question for you guys:
If the only difference is the rubber mounts, then why don't we just order number 15 in the pic and replace the bushing in our tension links?
Or is the entire tension link different from ours?

BMW_TT · 10-15-2008, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. 5

Another question for you guys:
If the only difference is the rubber mounts, then why don't we just order number 15 in the pic and replace the bushing in our tension links?
Or is the entire tension link different from ours?

I was asking that earlier too. Anyone?

HP Autosport · 10-15-2008, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. 5

Another question for you guys:
If the only difference is the rubber mounts, then why don't we just order number 15 in the pic and replace the bushing in our tension links?
Or is the entire tension link different from ours?

Because the 335i and the M3 uses a diff diameter bushing!

dArNeLLi · 10-15-2008, 11:17 AM

slightly confused through all the reading (but i've gone through it all), but is it too big of a request to get a complete list (summary for e92 / e90) of parts to get, with typical install times (w/ proper tools)

ie

FRONT SUSPENSION
• xxx (2hr)

REAR SUSPENSION
• xxx (5hr)

that would be GREATLY appreciated, maybe even listing the benefits of each mod too?

thanks in advance

oldaccount · 10-15-2008, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by dArNeLLi

slightly confused through all the reading (but i've gone through it all), but is it too big of a request to get a complete list (summary for e92 / e90) of parts to get, with typical install times (w/ proper tools)

ie

FRONT SUSPENSION
• xxx (2hr)

REAR SUSPENSION
• xxx (5hr)

CENTER SUSPENSION
• xxx (1hr)

this would be GREATLY appreciated, maybe even listing the benefits of each mod too?

thanks in advance

that.

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Orb Lieutenant Colonel 111 Rep 1,764 Posts Drives: 335 Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Canada iTrader: (1)	I corrected my first post as I listed the wishbone which can be changed but the key parts are tension struts. Orb Last edited by Orb; 10-15-2008 at 12:07 AM..
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dArNeLLi Lieutenant 76 Rep 579 Posts Drives: 335i on ED, pickup 10/6 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: San Francisco iTrader: (2)	slightly confused through all the reading (but i've gone through it all), but is it too big of a request to get a complete list (summary for e92 / e90) of parts to get, with typical install times (w/ proper tools) ie FRONT SUSPENSION • xxx (2hr) REAR SUSPENSION • xxx (5hr) that would be GREATLY appreciated, maybe even listing the benefits of each mod too? thanks in advance Last edited by dArNeLLi; 10-15-2008 at 08:33 PM..
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