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12-12-2007, 09:57 PM | #287 |
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Yeah, it's not for me, but some ppl like the idea that they can run past 155mph. I could see the possibilty for the Autobahn, but for around here????
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12-12-2007, 10:08 PM | #288 |
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Just take a little speed and it'll be easy to do.
BTW do you still think the Dinan Flash is < V1.47? Be objective and ignore the price. I am just curious.
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12-13-2007, 07:07 AM | #289 |
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Well, I'll be getting the flash soon. I've discussed the warranty issues with my dealer and Dinan. I spoke to Lynn with Braman (WPB) and I'm making an appointment for next week, the flash with cost $150 (one hour labor). I plan on getting it dynoed shortly thereafter on a Mustang Dyno. Everyone here is argueing price, but the bottom line depends on your personal utility preference and for me I don't mind paying a premium for the warranty.
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12-13-2007, 07:37 AM | #290 | |
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12-13-2007, 11:17 AM | #291 |
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As Terry, Shiv, and others have been saying, each tune has its merits. The PROcede V2 is super fast and complex. The JB2 is fast and inexpensive. The Dinan's niche is warranty and (?) reliability, but it's way expensive.
Reliability, engine longevity, power curve, and price are my priorities. It is not an easy decision. I am surprised by how many posters are waiting to decide about the Dinan based on Dynos and 1/4 mile times. Even though it runs at 13.2 psi, I doubt that it will be as fast as the PROcede v2. Without any additional options, it should be about as fast as the JB2 or TT or PROcede v1.48. But it (Dinan) claims to enhance reliability and engine longevity. Time will tell, eventually someone with the electronic wherewithall will get identical cars set up with the different systems and detail the precise differences among them. Oh yeah, I almost forgot, TOP SPEED! When is someone with the speed limiter off going to tell us how fast the 335 with PROcede v2 will go? This is a bigger deal in Euro, because one can occasionally max out, but also because speed is a luxury, it gets you where you are going more quickly. Munich to Berlin or Vienna in 2 hours, or to Paris in 3...
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12-13-2007, 11:39 AM | #292 | |
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12-13-2007, 11:44 AM | #293 |
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Dreaming is what it's all about. But hey, if that whacko can get from NYC to LA in 20 hours or so, what's Munich to Berlin in 2 (OK, just the A9)? Sans traffic, polizei, and good weather.
But seriously, we need to get Shiv to post up some top speed #s from a private air strip. 300 kph / 186.4 mph will be incredible. At that point the M-sport aerodynamics become critical.
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12-13-2007, 11:46 AM | #294 |
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I would love to test on an air strip
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12-13-2007, 12:34 PM | #295 |
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Does the Dinan Flash utilize both Solenoids? IF this is the case, why is there a steep drop in power up top like all the 1.4X, JB's, Xedes which utilize just one? You would think they could keep the curve stock like like the V2 is capable of doing....
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12-13-2007, 12:38 PM | #296 |
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It's a flash, not a piggyback.
The power curve is designed that way, to reduce engine stress at high rpms.
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12-13-2007, 12:44 PM | #297 |
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Dianan is always more expensive. Really folks...this is a BMW, not a f-ng STI or Honda rice rocket.
Warranty itself should be worth it's weight in gold. Afterall, what to u think all the piggybacks out there would have cost you if they offered their own warranty as well??? IMO, all of you with the 335i are being short sighted on this. Until now you were #1 stuck with a stock oil cooler that most people can agree is not sufficient for prolonged heavy track use, #2 stuck with stock flow rate on the h2o pump. Worst case with Dinan's release is that you now have options. Dinan warranty: I believe it's a piggyback warranty. There is a chance that you could possibly be caught between Dinan and BMW on a warranty claim, but I have yet to hear anyone of ever having to go through that. Dinan products are installed AT BMW dealerships by BMW Techs. |
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12-13-2007, 12:52 PM | #298 |
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still waiting for some more dyno's.
dinan is advertising 421ftlb at the crank. i wanna see some number compared to my SSTT. if there as good or hopefully better, i will look into it along with the warranty and top speed removal.
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12-13-2007, 03:17 PM | #299 | |
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Your little turbo diesel that gets 50mpg would probably be getting 70mpg if it had a hybrid system implemented. The amount of energy thrown away when breaking is no joke. Having gobs of torque available from an electric motor will turn out to be very fun when used in the new generation sports cars. Don’t call a technology a joke just because you don’t understand it. I bench 250 but, not sure what that has to do with it??? |
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12-13-2007, 03:28 PM | #300 | |
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I am actually an environmentalist but I hate when car companies sell snake oil and I hate the snake oil users! Like the self-absorb folk who drive the speed limit (by themselves in the commuter lanes). I don't hate the technology per se but the users are kinda wierd.
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12-13-2007, 05:33 PM | #301 | |
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Hybrids help with highway driving by the cars being able to have a smaller engine due to the added power of the electric motor. Smaller displacement usually means better gas mileage, but not always. Battery Disposal, great point, our recycling of batteries is only going to get better and better. Plus they will start to last longer then the 10 or so years that they do now. When some type of super capacitor is introduced this shouldn’t be much of a concern. Linearity of brake system, another good point. Remember that hybrid technology of the kind of scale that is on now has only been around for about a decade. This is one of the teething problems that I am sure will get fixed with strides in electronics and technology for these vehicles. Weight, again we are headed towards some type of super capacitor, this will not be an issue, the new motors don’t weight much at all. Valid point, but cars need to get lighters across the board, there is plenty of pork to cut out! Do a carbon emissions comparison between a 25mpg and a 40mpg gallon car over its lifetime. There is no joke there. Driving at lower speeds does cut down a lot on emissions as well. But, that is not a point I could defend (very guilty of it myself) To me hybrids are a little like our new found love for ethanol. While we may be just breaking even from a energy benefit standpoint (we are making some notable gains on hybrids). We are modeling the new cars and technology for tomorrow. Something has to be done sometime when you have a limited resource. If people don’t care, we will as a country and world be in a lot of trouble. |
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Well I think I understand the technology and have actually driven a rental Toyota Camry Hybrid and Prius for a few thousand miles.
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No data, sorry. Brake feel is actually quite good. I have owned many different types of cars over my lifetime and definately have no complaints with the brakes. The regenerative aspect of them is completely transparent. Not sure about how it affects safety systems, but with the battery being in the rear actually helps with the cars weight distribution.
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12-13-2007, 06:07 PM | #303 |
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Please tell me who's made it from Munich to Berlin in 2 hours.
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12-14-2007, 03:24 PM | #305 | |
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I have not done the 530km stretch of A9 from Munich to the outskirts of Berlin in 2 hours. But I bet it could be done . I was just suggesting a hypothetical. Most of us are well aware of the grey, dismal realities of traffic slowdowns and the polizei.
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12-14-2007, 03:40 PM | #307 |
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What? Back on topic? What happened to Prius hybrids and Autobahn burning?
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The problem is the Hybrid people are kinda like infections.... they pop up whenever they can.
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