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10-04-2010, 03:18 PM | #23 |
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If I wasn't in a department about to lose 40% of it's staff before April, I'd laugh even more...
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10-04-2010, 03:25 PM | #26 |
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10-04-2010, 03:29 PM | #28 | |
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10-04-2010, 03:39 PM | #29 |
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Look people, its not rocket science. A national budget is NOT the same as a household budget. If we all stop spending money then businesses go bust, more people lose their jobs, and we have even less money coming in. Most families have a fixed budget because their income doesn't change. A country has a variable income level which means it can increase its income in a way that families can't.
So ignore Tory politicians who tell you they need to run GBPLC like you run your home. Its economically insane. Don't believe me? Go look at Ireland. Big deficit, so slash spending, so reduce the amount of money in circulation so increase unemployment and the ability of business to create jobs so crash your economy so end up with a deficit thats now 33% of your rapidly shrinking GDP so end up bankrupt. Ireland has done what the IMF told them to do, what Oik wants the UK to do. And has bankrupted itself. We can't go bankrupt as unlike Ireland we print the currency that our debt is denominated in (and most of the money is owned to UK pension funds). But we can cripple our economy like them. We need to cut spending, course we do. But not to the detriment of growth. Ask Baronet Oik what growth he is protecting. Well, he claims that the private sector will create 2.5m jobs in 4 years to make it alright. Yet in 10 years of boom they managed to create just 1.4m jobs....... |
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10-04-2010, 03:42 PM | #30 | |
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10-04-2010, 04:45 PM | #31 |
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For a family with one parent working and the second looking after children, withdrawing child benefit is basically an additional tax. The Tories said that they would not do this before the election, but as we can all now see they are a bunch of lying tosspots.
So .. in 2013 my family will effectively pay £1792 additional tax. It's clearly not going to break us, but it is going to be a noticable drop in disposable income. I already pay a LOT of tax and I don't see why I should be forced to pay more by a cack handed, back door, badly conceived, inherently unfair arrangement like this one. It's not my fault that the government pisses away our tax money on a pathetically wasteful, badly managed, shambolic and inefectual welfare system. So why should my family have to pay to sort it out? |
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10-04-2010, 04:59 PM | #33 | |
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I'm a civil engineer for a local authority. Our funding is slashed, we sack people. We don't put our excess design work out to consulting engineers as usual, they sack people. We don't build as many projects, our contractors sack people. Our contractors dont buy as much materials, hire plant etc , so the suppliers sack people. I don't have any money to spend in the shops, so they sack people. This goes for all the consultants / contractors / suppliers... Double dip? You ain't seen fuckin' nothing yet...........
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10-04-2010, 05:29 PM | #34 |
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Unfortunatly I dont agree with all the tax credit stuff, if you want kids then have them but dont expect the government to help you out. At the end of the day it's everyones choice whether to have kids, if you cant afford it then dont do it. And to say tax the higher earners just drives me mad, why should anyone that doesnt have kids pay for other people to have kids.
I am sure my opinion will pi** some people off but to me it's simple, if you cant afford to have kids then dont have them. |
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10-04-2010, 05:45 PM | #38 |
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Both my partner and I are both in the 40% tax bracket but we dont earn fortunes. We are looking at having kids as well so it's not that either, my point is that if you want something pay for it yourself dont expect others to pick up the tab. If my partner and I were to have a little that is what we would do. It's only my opinion and everyone has one
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10-04-2010, 05:51 PM | #39 |
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10-04-2010, 05:52 PM | #40 |
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Is that not what a pensions for? Sorry but the more the government pay out for stuff like this the more people will sit at home thinking they are better of not working as they get more money than minimum wage. How about this for a saving method, anyone thats cant be arsed to go to work ban them from having big T.V's and sky!!! BIG SAVING THERE!!
I was on holiday a few months back and one of the people we met was out there on her benifits, left the kids at home and gone on holiday with her mates!!! |
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10-04-2010, 11:32 PM | #42 | |
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10-05-2010, 02:15 AM | #43 | |
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I entirely agree that people should never be better off on benefits than in work. What I disagree with is having my family taxed extra, when I already pay more than my fair share and when the sneaky lying toerags responsible promised not to do this before the election. The real issue is the stupidity of the Tory approach. Osbourne has admitted that it is completely unfair, but says its 'too complicated' to do it properly. The man is a moron. Oh .. and rubber faced whinger Cameron wants me to voluntarily give up our child benefit now rather than wait till 2013, so I can 'do my bit' to reduce the debt. He can f*ck right off. I'll give up my child benefit when he gives up both of his free houses. |
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