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      10-09-2009, 09:38 AM   #199
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1. Agreed. There should be a position on the O-knob.

2. Fyi, you know if they're activated if you push it and the wipers sweep. If they don't, you're turning it off. Takes 0.5 secs to do a double tap. A permanent "On" mode seems unusual. I don't know a car that has that.

3. Dude, ditch the RFTs.
To answer your #2, the is350 has permanent on/off rain sensing wipers had one a couple of years ago. I don't see the point in having automatic wipers if you have to turn them on.
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      10-09-2009, 09:40 AM   #200
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The coupe should look more like the convertible: pillarless. Right now the convertible (top up) is way better looking.
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      10-09-2009, 10:10 AM   #201
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I find it interesting that everyone seems to want a more luxurious interior, more features standard, etc. And yet, people always compains that paying $50k for a 3 series is ridiculous. We all want more but we don't want to pay for it. Come on poeple, you just can't have free lunch!

You got Better Luxury, Better Driving Dynamics and Low price. You can only have up to 2 of these but not all 3 at the same time. This is true on any brand of cars.
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      10-09-2009, 10:31 AM   #202
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I find it interesting that everyone seems to want a more luxurious interior, more features standard, etc. And yet, people always compains that paying $50k for a 3 series is ridiculous. We all want more but we don't want to pay for it. Come on poeple, you just can't have free lunch!

You got Better Luxury, Better Driving Dynamics and Low price. You can only have up to 2 of these but not all 3 at the same time. This is true on any brand of cars.
Personally I want all 3 to some extent. I'll give up the speed though, I'm ok with the 328i acceleration, what I really want is the handling. That said, in my budgeting for 2012ish, I took what a current 328i costs with all options I want (quite a few on my next one) and jumped the price a couple of k. I figure even if the price goes up beyond that, I can talk it down to there if not better. I hope I'm not wrong.
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      10-09-2009, 11:45 AM   #203
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Personally I want all 3 to some extent. I'll give up the speed though, I'm ok with the 328i acceleration, what I really want is the handling. That said, in my budgeting for 2012ish, I took what a current 328i costs with all options I want (quite a few on my next one) and jumped the price a couple of k. I figure even if the price goes up beyond that, I can talk it down to there if not better. I hope I'm not wrong.
Agreed. When I hit a bump on the road at high speed, the feels unstable. Also, The car needs to shed some weight. It's way too damn heavy. The 230HP engine also needs like a 10-15 HP bump. 250 horses sounds just about right if they are going to keep this engine alive.
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      10-09-2009, 11:58 AM   #204
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To answer your #2, the is350 has permanent on/off rain sensing wipers had one a couple of years ago. I don't see the point in having automatic wipers if you have to turn them on.
you might think differently once you f-uck them up because they tried to move while incrusted in ice or snow.
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      10-09-2009, 12:15 PM   #205
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Do a lot of people have the chipping problem? It totally sucks when in less than
a month the windshield is toast!
From the way everyone is talking about this it sounds pretty common, but I haven't had any issues whatsoever with mine. (knock on wood)
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From the way everyone is talking about this it sounds pretty common, but I haven't had any issues whatsoever with mine. (knock on wood)
I've got 2 nicks in my windshield.
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I also really like the electronic shifter. I wouldn't mind having that in the next gen 3.
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      10-09-2009, 01:36 PM   #208
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Some of the things written here really crack me up. Like this post for example:

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Agreed. When I hit a bump on the road at high speed, the feels unstable. Also, The car needs to shed some weight. It's way too damn heavy. The 230HP engine also needs like a 10-15 HP bump. 250 horses sounds just about right if they are going to keep this engine alive.
You want the car to be both lighter AND more stable at high speed? The only way to achieve that would be by making it much wider and lower and using expensive lightweight materials everywhere. Do you really want a less practical 3-series that costs 2-3 times more than the current model?
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Some of the things written here really crack me up. Like this post for example:


You want the car to be both lighter AND more stable at high speed? The only way to achieve that would be by making it much wider and lower and using expensive lightweight materials everywhere. Do you really want a less practical 3-series that costs 2-3 times more than the current model?
Do you want your rear end sliding out every time you hit a pothole going 65 MPH?
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Do you want your rear end sliding out every time you hit a pothole going 65 MPH?
I've never had my rear end slide out from hitting a pothole at 65 mph (and the roads here are bad, especially in winter). How big of a "pothole" is it anyway? And are you suggesting that this is a 3-series specific issue and that you would not be getting similar results if you hit the same pothole driving another car?
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I've never had my rear end slide out from hitting a pothole at 65 mph (and the roads here are bad, especially in winter). How big of a "pothole" is it anyway? And are you suggesting that this is a 3-series specific issue and that you would not be getting similar results if you hit the same pothole driving another car?
I never got that result when I hit a pothole in my sisters 5 series or my cousins X3, or my dad's 750.
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I never got that result when I hit a pothole in my sisters 5 series or my cousins X3, or my dad's 750.
As you may know, all of those cars are significantly heavier than the 3-series. More weight = greater high speed stability. If you drive on the autobahn, you will notice that the cars in the left lane doing 220+ km/h are usually 5/7 series BMW and E/S class Mercedes....not little Opels and Fiats.

This begs the question: why are you asking for less weight?
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      10-09-2009, 03:32 PM   #213
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Sace for a full size spare!!!!

Even if BMW burdens everyoen with run-flat tires, please make a space under the trunk mat where you can put a spare tire, even a stupid mini-spare.

Having to choose between bad run-flat tires and flat-tire roulette (no spare) is hazardous.

And while were at it, give me a dipstick so I can chek the level and colour of my own oil.
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I don't have a problem with this if my FOOT IS STILL ON THE GAS. I've learned from this transmission that if you take your foot off the gas it will downshift. Thus, I expect that to happen. Plus, I don't mind if it holds for a second, but it literally held for 5 seconds or so. I really thought something was wrong with the car. I ended up having to up-shift with the paddles just to calm the thing down. If this is how the tranny is designed, it is a faulty design IMO. I've seen a number of people (many in Roundel Mag) complain about the drastic differences in the auto tranny on the 328 as opposed to the auto tranny on the 335. I completely understand that one engine is more performance-oriented, but to make the ZSP perfect and the 328 tranny a POS is mind-blowing to me.
That's what DS is for - spirited driving. It's holding your gear to keep you in the powerband. When you give it WOT it predicts that you're going to drive aggressively so it doesn't upshift to take you out of that band. DS isn't aggressive enough imo. Learn to drive in M anyways.
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As you may know, all of those cars are significantly heavier than the 3-series. More weight = greater high speed stability. If you drive on the autobahn, you will notice that the cars in the left lane doing 220+ km/h are usually 5/7 series BMW and E/S class Mercedes....not little Opels and Fiats.

This begs the question: why are you asking for less weight?
Because they are waaayy to heavy, and weight impacts performance in the twisties too. Why did Lambo make the LP-640 SV? Less weight also= better fuel economy.
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Every model, Coupe, sedan, Cabriolet and estate needs to loose 300LBS.
no, more like 600
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comfort access STANDARD in all class!
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Nice list from you all. It seems the 3 and the 1 have things in common we'd all like changed.

From the OP, I too want automatic wipers either more visible, or always on unless I turn them off. Or always off unless I turn them on. Not off every time I turn off the car.

I don't have fog lights, so I can't say...my previous car had them, and honestly, I don't think they did anything for me except made me more visible in the front to oncoming traffic.

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No more HPFP issues.
A better center console - that armrest rattles. I'm thinking something akin to how DC2 Integras are. Built in, no rattles.
Lose about 300 lbs (that's pretty modest, I'd actually like more, but I think 300 is more than do-able).
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Because they are waaayy to heavy, and weight impacts performance in the twisties too. Why did Lambo make the LP-640 SV? Less weight also= better fuel economy.
Yes, I realize that weight impacts performance in the twisties . What I'm saying is that making a car that is both very light and very stable at high speeds (and has all the latest safety features on top of that) is a very expensive proposition. How much does LP-640 SV cost I forget? The E90 already strikes a pretty good balance between handling and high speed stability IMO.
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      10-09-2009, 09:00 PM   #220
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The "once to unlock, once to open" is a German staple. The VWs have this. I like it.

If you want all the fancy toys, keep on going up the range. You'll keep diluting what makes a 3er the best car to own overall. Ventilated seats? More fans and electronics in the seats? All while wanting one of the safest cars on sale in the world to lose 300-500lbs. Seriously?

I would like to see the run-flats disappear.
The car is now the perfect size. The interior is fine for four, five in a pinch. NO BIGGER!
I think weight loss is always good, so anything they can take out is great.
I like leatherette- it looks good and lasts for years with minimal care as opposed to the leather.
Keep that most wonderful Inline, non-turbo 6 cylinder. Great performance, smoothness, sound, and even 32mpg on the highways.
Keep the steering firm with feedback. It's so easy to push and enjoy day to day.

I can't ask for more from a car. A 3er sedan is all the car you'll ever need.
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