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      10-01-2013, 05:46 PM   #1
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I have an e93 328i. I had the muffler deleted last weekend, after reading just about every thread and watching every video on youtube. All I can say is, never trust anything you read or hear online until you see or hear it in person. My car sounds like a ricey honda with a fart can on the back of it. It's embarrasing. I get an awful, deep, bassy fart can sound at 1500, 2500 and 3500 rpm. in between those revs, the sound is bearable but still too deep and cheap sounding. past 4000rpm it sounds great, mostly because I'm getting more engine sound than exhaust noise. I have owned 6 BMWs in the past 7 years, so spending a lot of money on an exhaust system is not plausible seeing as how I will probably sell this car within the next year or two. My absolute favorite exhaust sound came from my e85 3.0 z4. I LOVE that pure, naturally aspirated straight-6 sound. The e93 is WAY too quiet with the stock muffler, it sounds like a 4 cylinder hybrid , so I don't want to have to revert back to stock. What are my options here?? I thought about adding a vibrant resonator, but from my calculations (which could be off), the resonator would only work on getting rid of the frequency from around 3200 rpm... which still leaves the other 2 problem areas to be taken care of. How can I get rid of the exhaust noise, so that I am left with more of the lovely straight 6 howl? I would also like to keep some of the popping backfires that happen when I let off the gas at lower rpms, if that isn't asking too much.
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Get a universal muffler like flowmaster, Magnaflow or vibrant welded in?
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Get a universal muffler like flowmaster, Magnaflow or vibrant welded in?
Any suggestions? I have no experience with aftermarket mufflers, other than the more pricey remus/dinans, and haven't found any videos or reviews of some on my car to compare with.
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I have an e93 328i. I had the muffler deleted last weekend, after reading just about every thread and watching every video on youtube. All I can say is, never trust anything you read or hear online until you see or hear it in person. My car sounds like a ricey honda with a fart can on the back of it. It's embarrasing. I get an awful, deep, bassy fart can sound at 1500, 2500 and 3500 rpm. in between those revs, the sound is bearable but still too deep and cheap sounding. past 4000rpm it sounds great, mostly because I'm getting more engine sound than exhaust noise. I have owned 6 BMWs in the past 7 years, so spending a lot of money on an exhaust system is not plausible seeing as how I will probably sell this car within the next year or two. My absolute favorite exhaust sound came from my e85 3.0 z4. I LOVE that pure, naturally aspirated straight-6 sound. The e93 is WAY too quiet with the stock muffler, it sounds like a 4 cylinder hybrid , so I don't want to have to revert back to stock. What are my options here?? I thought about adding a vibrant resonator, but from my calculations (which could be off), the resonator would only work on getting rid of the frequency from around 3200 rpm... which still leaves the other 2 problem areas to be taken care of. How can I get rid of the exhaust noise, so that I am left with more of the lovely straight 6 howl? I would also like to keep some of the popping backfires that happen when I let off the gas at lower rpms, if that isn't asking too much.
Put your muffler back on.
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I guess check out Magnaflow or something? but keep in mind you get what you pay for
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Put your muffler back on.
I think that's what I will end up doing. I can put up with a lack of sound until my next car. I will for sure not be buying any more 328s unless I account for a good exhaust system when buying the car.
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If anyone is interested in buying a muffler delete pipe for e93 with dual 3" tips, let me know. Looks like the sound killing muffler is going back on this weekend.
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No matter what you get, you will have that deep base sound (drone), specially around 2000 rpm, unless you silence the bejesus out of the exhaust (increasing back pressure again). To get less ricyness change the stock silencer, otherwise learn how to get used to it, its not bad at all. But thats just my opinion.

If you just want a little more volume over the stock tone then get a Rogue Ikon, the tone is very nice but you still wont hear it with the windows up, and that sucks.
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I heard a e92 muffler delete I liked it didn't sound like ricer but was little too loud tho
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Maybe throwing a dynomax vt muffler would do the trick. Closed valve on low rpms and opens up when you get to higher revs. I put one on an aftermarket exhaust and it sounded pretty good.
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Find a 330i muffler or get a Magnaflow muffler welded in. I don't know what you're hearing but deep and bassy sounds more refined to me than ricer. The exhaust will still be loudest at the same RPMs because that's just the nature of the engine, but a muffler should help cut down and smooth out the sound.
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Sounds fine to me, don't know how the muffler delete sounds ricey. I had my muffler deleted, kept the resonator on and I can tell the difference between a BMW and a Civic exhaust, BMW has more of a deeper throaty muscled sound then any Civic.

If you don't like the muffler delete then put the stock muffler back on and if you have money and want more of a stock sound at low rpm's but a scream at the higher rpm's go BMW PE.
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I have a 2009 e90 328i with muffler delete and intake and all i can say is it sounds amazing. Idk what u mean it sounds ricy. It sounds deep and at high rpms it screems. Do an intake mod and gauranteed you will love it
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I have the Active Autowerke muffler delete and I absolutely love it. I actually just heard it from the outside of the car for the first time the other day, and wow...
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I think that's what I will end up doing. I can put up with a lack of sound until my next car. I will for sure not be buying any more 328s unless I account for a good exhaust system when buying the car.
Yea it seems the only real nice mod where it sounds good, gives some power, and doesn't call too much unwanted attention is the oem performance exhaust. But your into over $1K for that guy.
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I guess you get what you pay for, never a complaint with me PE
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I have a 2009 e90 328i with muffler delete and intake and all i can say is it sounds amazing. Idk what u mean it sounds ricy. It sounds deep and at high rpms it screems. Do an intake mod and gauranteed you will love it
The intake is afe. And I do love the way that sounds, but the low end sound is definitely cheap sounding in my opinion. Maybe it's because I have a very detailed sense of sound, or something is different in my overall setup, but I can't handle the low end sound. A scion drove by me on my way home tonight and it sounded wayyy too similar to my frequencies between 2-4k rpm
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Yea it seems the only real nice mod where it sounds good, gives some power, and doesn't call too much unwanted attention is the oem performance exhaust. But your into over $1K for that guy.

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I guess you get what you pay for, never a complaint with me PE

Can't agree more. Muffler is going back on this weekend and I will either be waiting until my next car or looking into PE
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Can't agree more. Muffler is going back on this weekend and I will either be waiting until my next car or looking into PE
You can also install an exhaust silencer, it's cheap and removes the drone at lower rpms.

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Lots of options on exhaust systems for the 328.
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I have an e93 328i. I had the muffler deleted last weekend, after reading just about every thread and watching every video on youtube. All I can say is, never trust anything you read or hear online until you see or hear it in person. My car sounds like a ricey honda with a fart can on the back of it. It's embarrasing. I get an awful, deep, bassy fart can sound at 1500, 2500 and 3500 rpm. in between those revs, the sound is bearable but still too deep and cheap sounding. past 4000rpm it sounds great, mostly because I'm getting more engine sound than exhaust noise. I have owned 6 BMWs in the past 7 years, so spending a lot of money on an exhaust system is not plausible seeing as how I will probably sell this car within the next year or two. My absolute favorite exhaust sound came from my e85 3.0 z4. I LOVE that pure, naturally aspirated straight-6 sound. The e93 is WAY too quiet with the stock muffler, it sounds like a 4 cylinder hybrid , so I don't want to have to revert back to stock. What are my options here?? I thought about adding a vibrant resonator, but from my calculations (which could be off), the resonator would only work on getting rid of the frequency from around 3200 rpm... which still leaves the other 2 problem areas to be taken care of. How can I get rid of the exhaust noise, so that I am left with more of the lovely straight 6 howl? I would also like to keep some of the popping backfires that happen when I let off the gas at lower rpms, if that isn't asking too much.
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I have a 2009 e90 328i with muffler delete and intake and all i can say is it sounds amazing. Idk what u mean it sounds ricy. It sounds deep and at high rpms it screems. Do an intake mod and gauranteed you will love it
The intake is afe. And I do love the way that sounds, but the low end sound is definitely cheap sounding in my opinion. Maybe it's because I have a very detailed sense of sound, or something is different in my overall setup, but I can't handle the low end sound. A scion drove by me on my way home tonight and it sounded wayyy too similar to my frequencies between 2-4k rpm
If i were you i would wait a little longer. I wasnt too fond of it when i first got it but now i love it. I think it did get a little quieter too after about a tank of gas. Just wait a little longer
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PE exhaust..Magnaflow is too deep and droney for me. I have a Remus personally, I like it a lot.
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