Dinan vs ESS vs LET Motorsport vs Turnermotosport Flash

J.P. · 03-10-2009, 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sd390r

ive heard of like 2-3 people in the whole e90post community getting warranty work denied... and theres alot of us lol

my car is full stage 3, tune catless fmic etc

BMW fixes it every time lol just gotta be a little careful

Those people are Dinan Trolls (See Below)

RipsE92 · 03-10-2009, 04:18 PM

Let's not forget the first ECU flash to be released .... EVOTech. A little birdie told me that EVOTech is working on a stage of their flash that would be for their turbo upgrade kit. It's already in testing overseas. Just some things to look forward too ...

2008E92 · 03-13-2009, 07:37 PM

Hey guys, Im back for second review!!

Sorry for the delay but I wanted to finish 2 tank of gas, so I can have a better assessment on the MPG gain/loss.

My first tank of gas = 345
Second tank of gas = 375

So average of 360.

Honestly, I am once again very satisfy. At first, like everyone else, I was afraid of the HP gain would lower my MPG. I have to say the $499 flash was worth every penny.

Hey kyle,
I heard the LET flash stage 2 and 3 are still being tested? Harold do you have any info on this??

tomtom · 03-23-2009, 11:07 PM

"LET Powered BMW 135i hits 376Whp and 414Wtrq with Stage III Flash"
Can we get dyno graphs and more info on this?

HP Autosport · 03-24-2009, 09:17 PM

Dyno was done on LET Motorsport's 135i with intake, Code3IC, DP's, and exhaust.

I will have more info later this week. We have always done road / track / dyno tuning for all of ours flashes, but our track season hasn't started yet, so we still have some tuning to do at the track in April.

The car is rock solid at 14.5 PSI and makes 37x WHP and anywhere from 39x to 41x WTRQ during our sessions. After 2 hours of solid tuning on the dyno, the 135 put down 374Whp / 399Wtrq run after run. Allowing a few minutes between runs yields the same Whp numbers, but >400Wtrq.

We are not using an oil cooler, but one is highly recommended. Code3 Performance will be sending us one soon and we expect that it will help.

BMW hasn't made it easy for us. There are so many changes from MSD80 to MSD81 and from one software version to the next. Each one needs to be tested and adjusted accordingly.

These numbers were made using 93 octane pump gas with no oil cooler.

HP Autosport · 03-24-2009, 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2008E92

Hey kyle,
I heard the LET flash stage 2 and 3 are still being tested? Harold do you have any info on this??

Yes, please see the above post.

bierry · 03-28-2009, 02:26 PM

ESS?

HP Autosport · 03-30-2009, 12:38 AM

The above is a flash from LET Motorsports!

993 911 · 03-30-2009, 01:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HP Autowerks

Dyno was done on LET Motorsport's 135i with intake, Code3IC, DP's, and exhaust.

I will have more info later this week. We have always done road / track / dyno tuning for all of ours flashes, but our track season hasn't started yet, so we still have some tuning to do at the track in April.

The car is rock solid at 14.5 PSI and makes 37x WHP and anywhere from 39x to 41x WTRQ during our sessions. After 2 hours of solid tuning on the dyno, the 135 put down 374Whp / 399Wtrq run after run. Allowing a few minutes between runs yields the same Whp numbers, but >400Wtrq.

We are not using an oil cooler, but one is highly recommended. Code3 Performance will be sending us one soon and we expect that it will help.

BMW hasn't made it easy for us. There are so many changes from MSD80 to MSD81 and from one software version to the next. Each one needs to be tested and adjusted accordingly.

These numbers were made using 93 octane pump gas with no oil cooler.

More info on this Stage 3 flash? Cost? Hardware needed to run it safely?

HP Autosport · 03-30-2009, 01:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 993 911

More info on this Stage 3 flash? Cost? Hardware needed to run it safely?

More info will be posted later along with price. The stage 3 is not finalized yet. There is a potential it can make even more power with more dyno time.

dredder · 04-22-2009, 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HP Autowerks

More info will be posted later along with price. The stage 3 is not finalized yet. There is a potential it can make even more power with more dyno time.

Are you worried at all that your AFR is on the lean side?

ragingclue · 04-22-2009, 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kyleb350

Thanks for the review OP. Any followup?

There is a local shop that does LET tunes in the Chicago area here, and I wanted to do some research. I saw they are offering a customized stage 2 and 3 flash as well.

Who is doing LET tunes in the area? The guys that did Nebster's? Was his LET?

Clarkson · 04-22-2009, 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ragingclue

Who is doing LET tunes in the area? The guys that did Nebster's? Was his LET?

Yes it was.

Any chance we can see the LET flash on a DynoJet whp/wtq graph?

HP Autosport · 04-22-2009, 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dredder

Are you worried at all that your AFR is on the lean side?

No, not at all. The AF is actually set a little on the rich side.

Prince ///M · 04-22-2009, 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HP Autowerks

No, not at all. The AF is actually set a little on the rich side.

The dyno you posted seems to disagree

HP Autosport · 04-22-2009, 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prince ///M

The dyno you posted seems to disagree

This is our dyno for stock vs stage 1 vs stage 2

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=252616

Prince ///M · 04-22-2009, 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HP Autowerks

This is our dyno for stock vs stage 1 vs stage 2

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=252616

So only the stage III is lean...

335e92tx · 04-22-2009, 09:57 PM

Your saying this is with DP and FMIC made 375HP on a MUSTANG DYNO?>

I find that hard to believe.

HP Autosport · 04-23-2009, 01:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prince ///M

So only the stage III is lean...

I believe that is the Stage 3 being tested. The finalized version for the public will have much better AF.

HP Autosport · 08-07-2009, 12:03 AM

Bump!

SatyrDog · 08-07-2009, 10:38 AM

I have the ESS stage 2. Love it!

HP Autosport · 08-07-2009, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by SatyrDog

I have the ESS stage 2. Love it!

Excellent!

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