[warioware]

So i have an 07 335i mods as follow

FBO JB4
Stage 3LPFP
OS Giken lsd (not installed yet)
Pure turbos stage 2 (ordered)
Port Injection (haven't ordered yet but i plan to)

So as far as i see it i only have two options for a clutch either
Spec Stage 3+
Or Twin disk PTF

Its about 500 dollar difference which isn't too bad.
My main concern is drivability.
I've read reviews but haven't been able to find a straight answer.
I will be daily driving this car and taking it to the drag strip once in a while.

[BQTuning]

You have 3 options of clutches actually. Clutchmasters also carries the FX850 Twin Disk Clutch for the N54 that can be customized based on application need. Their more expensive though

Just an FYI

[warioware]

Originally Posted by BuraQ

You have 3 options of clutches actually. Clutchmasters also carries the FX850 Twin Disk Clutch for the N54 that can be customized based on application need. Their more expensive though

Just an FYI

yea i had seen that one as well but it is definitely expensive!! and i don't think it's necessary as i don't think i'll see anything more than 650tq more or less.

[Sered]

Drivability really depends on what you're used to and if you do any other supporting mods.

I've got a Spec Twindisc on my M3 with the 6puck clutches (enough clutch for 1100ft-lbs). Very very similar to the 335i unit that PTF/Motiv have. But I don't have the engagement point issue that others have reported nor any problems getting it out of gear at high rpm. I'm running a UCP pedal upgrade. Makes a huge difference in sensing the clutch.

But for my E90 project I opted for the M-factory flywheel and the Spec Stage3+ as I hear drivability is better on this platform and nearly all the big turbo guys are running it without any problems.

[warioware]

Originally Posted by Sered

Drivability really depends on what you're used to and if you do any other supporting mods.

I've got a Spec Twindisc on my M3 with the 6puck clutches (enough clutch for 1100ft-lbs). Very very similar to the 335i unit that PTF/Motiv have. But I don't have the engagement point issue that others have reported nor any problems getting it out of gear at high rpm. I'm running a UCP pedal upgrade. Makes a huge difference in sensing the clutch.

But for my E90 project I opted for the M-factory flywheel and the Spec Stage3+ as I hear drivability is better on this platform and nearly all the big turbo guys are running it without any problems.

thats good to hear! thanks for your input. I'm leaning towards spec stage 3+ for the drivability hopefully it'll handle a couple of drag strip runs lol

[josh135]

spec 3+ and mfactory are very close to stock drivability.

[Jeff@TopGearSolutions]

We've sold a bunch of 3+ and most reviews were positive. As with any clutch it's hard to sift through the pros and cons as everyones sensitivity is different.

[Lshaw]

I am about to install my new clutch.

However i am debating on Spec Stage 3+ clutch or 335is clutch. Spec Stage 3 clutch because i got it relatively cheap. I do not plan on adding bigger turbos unless mine fail.

Keep the stage 3 clutch or go 335is? In terms of drivability. Money is not a concern, bc i picked up the stage 3 from a friend and the 335is clutch is HALF the price.



All going on a Mfactory SMFW, Steel.

Thoughts?

[C.Pop]

Originally Posted by Lshaw

I am about to install my new clutch.

However i am debating on Spec Stage 3 clutch or 335is clutch. Spec Stage 3 clutch because i got it relatively cheap. I do not plan on adding bigger turbos unless mine fail.

Keep the stage 3 clutch or go 335is? In terms of drivability. Money is not a concern, bc i picked up the stage 3 from a friend and the 335is clutch is HALF the price.

All going on a Mfactory SMFW, Steel.

Thoughts?

I had the 335is clutch for about a year, got about 20k out of it before it started to slip with my VTT 2+'s and around 550-570 whp. If you want to hover around 500 whp, don't drive all the time, or don't do clutch drops the BMW clutch is pretty good and very inexpensive. It held up to 600 wtq for a while but I'm not usually too hard on clutches.

My replacement is a Spec 3+, ordered today. I'll limp my car around a while until I feel like changing it out (read that: not soon). I considered just ordering another BMW clutch and not having the big torque spike but then came to my senses.

[Lshaw]

Originally Posted by C.Pop

I had the 335is clutch for about a year, got about 20k out of it before it started to slip with my VTT 2+'s and around 550-570 whp. If you want to hover around 500 whp, don't drive all the time, or don't do clutch drops the BMW clutch is pretty good and very inexpensive. It held up to 600 wtq for a while but I'm not usually too hard on clutches.

My replacement is a Spec 3+, ordered today. I'll limp my car around a while until I feel like changing it out (read that: not soon). I considered just ordering another BMW clutch and not having the big torque spike but then came to my senses.

What was the pedal feel like? I honestly think the non is oem feel is too soft, same for the 335is clutch?

[Rival]

I know this isnt 100% on point.

But when i had my camaro, i had a spec 2+.

It drove dam near stock. IDK about the 3, or their's for the 335, but in my experience, they had a great clutch.

Drivabilty and holding power at the track. I would drop it at 4800 rpms with BFG DR's i would dam near melt with a line lock.

They would spin a tad and dead hook.

[C.Pop]

Originally Posted by Lshaw

What was the pedal feel like? I honestly think the non is oem feel is too soft, same for the 335is clutch?

The 550i/335is clutch felt just about the same as the stock one.

[Lshaw]

Originally Posted by C.Pop

The 550i/335is clutch felt just about the same as the stock one.

hmm....well i ordered the 335is clutch as well to have an option in case i dont go with the stage 3+.

Ive heard so many mixed reviews on driveability, hah, at least all good performance wise.

[Jeff@TopGearSolutions]

Originally Posted by Rival

I know this isnt 100% on point.

But when i had my camaro, i had a spec 2+.

It drove dam near stock. IDK about the 3, or their's for the 335, but in my experience, they had a great clutch.

Drivabilty and holding power at the track. I would drop it at 4800 rpms with BFG DR's i would dam near melt with a line lock.

They would spin a tad and dead hook.

The 3 on this platform won't drive as well as the 3+ or 2+.

The 3 is a 6 puck, where as the 3+ and 2+ are full face, so much better for drivability.

Most 2+ users say the 2+ drives similar stock with a sporty feel.

[Lshaw]

Originally Posted by Jeff@TopGearSolutions

The 3 on this platform won't drive as well as the 3+ or 2+.

The 3 is a 6 puck, where as the 3+ and 2+ are full face, so much better for drivability.

Most 2+ users say the 2+ drives similar stock with a sporty feel.

Ooops! I meant 3+. lol NO 6 puck clutch for me.

Would the 3+ be overkill for just FBO only? No plans on meth, turbos. How does 3+ and 2+ driveabilty compare? I like heavier clutches, but if the 3+ is too much, then it would be pointless to run this.

But...then again i could save some $, install the 335is, sell the stg 3, and call it a day.

[Jeff@TopGearSolutions]

Originally Posted by Lshaw

Ooops! I meant 3+. lol NO 6 puck clutch for me.

Would the 3+ be overkill for just FBO only? No plans on meth, turbos. How does 3+ and 2+ driveabilty compare? I like heavier clutches, but if the 3+ is too much, then it would be pointless to run this.

But...then again i could save some $, install the 335is, sell the stg 3, and call it a day.

No reason to go with 3+ on stock turbos.

2+ more then sufficient and there are some upgraded turbo guys with 2+ too

[Lshaw]

Originally Posted by Jeff@TopGearSolutions

No reason to go with 3+ on stock turbos.

2+ more then sufficient and there are some upgraded turbo guys with 2+ too

Either 335is or spec stg3.

[stari335]

2+ if staying stock turbos otherwise go with the twin disk.

[Jeff@TopGearSolutions]

Originally Posted by Lshaw

Either 335is or spec stg3.

Originally Posted by stari335

2+ if staying stock turbos otherwise go with the twin disk.

I'd go with the 2+ on my personal car.

[Lshaw]

Like i said, it is either the 3+ or is clutch. The stage 3+ clutch, if it is comparable to the stage 2+ clutch, drive-ability wise then this is my route. If not 335is clutch it is.

[Jeff@TopGearSolutions]

Originally Posted by Lshaw

Like i said, it is either the 3+ or is clutch. The stage 3+ clutch, if it is comparable to the stage 2+ clutch, drive-ability wise then this is my route. If not 335is clutch it is.

Stage 2+ would drive better then a 3+. Any particular reason you think a more aggressive clutch would drive better?

2+ is known to drive very well and similar to stock. We probably sell it 20 to 1 over any other set up.

[Lshaw]

Originally Posted by Jeff@TopGearSolutions

Stage 2+ would drive better then a 3+. Any particular reason you think a more aggressive clutch would drive better?

2+ is known to drive very well and similar to stock. We probably sell it 20 to 1 over any other set up.

Trust me, i would be going for the 2+, however it is a timing issue for me. I need a clutch before i drive back home for the holidays this coming week and the spec stage 3+ is all i could in my time frame. The 335is clutch, i had ordered in case i got enough people to convince me otherwise.