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      05-05-2014, 04:45 AM   #67
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Find out where it got built somehow to get info. Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if it was modest because if he wanted cash and knew he'd win, why not race for $100 or even $500? He might be trying to scare you off with that amount because his setup isn't crazy.

Or he has a 40r with 100shot on a destroked motor with 9000rpms and 40lbs of boost!

Do it safely for fun either way : )
Got some info, Its a k20 with turbo no meth though. 360 to the wheels he sais enough info??
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      05-05-2014, 05:16 AM   #68
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Got some info, Its a k20 with turbo no meth though. 360 to the wheels he sais enough info??
You'll get destroyed if what he says is true along with the car most likely being gutted too.
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      05-05-2014, 06:00 AM   #69
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360whp on a 2000lb car hella fast bro, youd get smashed
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      05-05-2014, 06:33 AM   #70
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"Turbo Civic" is just too many variables. It is likely you will not come out well.

Even with the stock D16 single cam motor running moderate (8-10psi) boost, he will be making around 250whp. That may not sound intimidating, but remember that car weighs at least 1,000 lbs. less than a 335i. A fully built single cam 1.6 can make 450whp or more. A fully built K24 could be making more than 700whp.

Bottom line is: it's not terribly difficult or expensive to get a stripped out Civic hatch to run 120+ mph traps... A difficult task for a stock-turbo 335i.

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What he said

A good friend of mine had a 460 whp sleeper with a built LS/Vtec.

Don't underestimate boosted Hondas
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      05-05-2014, 06:35 AM   #71
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Got some info, Its a k20 with turbo no meth though. 360 to the wheels he sais enough info??
1. He'll tear you a new arsehole

2. He's probably pushing more then 360 whp, and you won't stand a chance
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      05-05-2014, 08:59 AM   #72
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Yikes, run from a dig or 20 roll and you can hold him for a little while. Anything rolling and you are toast.
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      05-05-2014, 10:49 AM   #73
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I was just at Import Face Off at Las Vegas Motor Speedway yesterday and watched a civic run an 8.xx 1/4, a few others run super low 9's and maybe half a dozen more run 10's. So, to think Hondas/fwd can't be fast is just ignorant.
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      05-05-2014, 10:52 AM   #74
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I was just at Import Face Off at Las Vegas Motor Speedway yesterday and watched a civic run an 8.xx 1/4, a few others run super low 9's and maybe half a dozen more run 10's. So, to think Hondas/fwd can't be fast is just ignorant.
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1. He'll tear you a new arsehole

2. He's probably pushing more then 360 whp, and you won't stand a chance
Yep and you can easily squeeze out 400-450WHP on a stock K20 too.

360WHP is fast on a car that weighs nothing and it's probably under 2400lbs.

As soon as the Honda guys came over to me and said do you want to run it. I said what do you have? They would always say, "stock motor" with a turbo.

9/10 it was a civic hatch, with a k20 swap pushing sub 400WHP.
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      05-05-2014, 12:30 PM   #75
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just race him for fun. if u lose and he talks shit just remind him he owns a civic. u should fill up with 100 octane to give urself the best chance since u can't get e85.

if u loose just act like u don't care. he won't get the same satisfaction if u show him u don't give a shit lol
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      05-05-2014, 02:56 PM   #76
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I'm amazed he told you... those Honda guys are snky

You'll lose... bad.
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Just like everyone else has said.. You'll get smoked.
Run him for fun , to give you a bit of an advantage run him from a dig with race gas on map 7 and hope for the best. If he's a shitty driver you might be able to pull it off. What ever you do don't roll race him!
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      05-05-2014, 03:41 PM   #78
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      05-05-2014, 04:12 PM   #79
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Just like everyone else has said.. You'll get smoked.
Run him for fun , to give you a bit of an advantage run him from a dig with race gas on map 7 and hope for the best. If he's a shitty driver you might be able to pull it off. What ever you do don't roll race him!
Where can I get race gas here in canada? Or 100 octane? The highest octane gas we have is 94. Should I get one of those octane boosters?
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Just like everyone else has said.. You'll get smoked.
Run him for fun , to give you a bit of an advantage run him from a dig with race gas on map 7 and hope for the best. If he's a shitty driver you might be able to pull it off. What ever you do don't roll race him!
Also, will race gas be ok in my car considering all I have is downpipes, intercooler, dinan ff?
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Where can I get race gas here in canada? Or 100 octane? The highest octane gas we have is 94. Should I get one of those octane boosters?
Pick up a couple of 5gal drums at your local performance shop.
100octane
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Also, will race gas be ok in my car considering all I have is downpipes, intercooler, dinan ff?
Yes.
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      05-05-2014, 05:33 PM   #82
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He said he's not telling anybody his mods. He's racing for $1000 and that's it.
Like in the 335i I have instant spool up and the car is gone, if his is late in the rpm range then isn't there a possibility I can pull on him off the line?
From a dig or off the line means same thing correct?
DO NOT DO IT, he invested so much into that honda and now he is trying to recuperate some of that money
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      05-05-2014, 05:55 PM   #83
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DO NOT DO IT, he invested so much into that honda and now he is trying to recuperate some of that money
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      05-05-2014, 08:39 PM   #84
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I always tell 335 owners nice poor mans m3 and then walk away.
And you can go sit in your track car that you can't really fully enjoy on the street. Go sit on your high horse somewhere else.
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      05-05-2014, 10:23 PM   #85
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I'd run him for gas money. If you lose so what, it's all in fun.
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do it for fun, record the race and post it here
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yea k20 ek with drag radials alone runs hard as shit, let alone with a decent turbo setup.
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