[John 070]

Originally Posted by vladinecko

i think it's more than just currency difference that goes into the formula of calculating prices in different countries.

realistically, the US is nowhere near to being prepared for European car prices. i don't see anyone here paying $50,000+ for an entry level 3-series.

but with the speed our economy is declining, we may be paying those prices before we know it...

Yes, as I've pointed out, on the jacket of most books there are prices for Canada and USA. Even though a Canadian dollar is worth more than a US dollar, the Canadian price is still higher. Off the top of my head $43.50 Canadian for a $35 US book.

There is also what I call the San Francisco factor. Even if a 1-bedroom is fairly priced at $900k, not everyone can afford it. At some point there is downward pressure as demand falls. Demand is a willingness and ability to pay. If someone is willing, but not able, there is no demand. Same as a 50k car or BMW. It doesn't matter what the exchange rate does, most people cannot afford 50k, let alone having it adjusted to 67k due to the dollar losing 34% of its value. If BMW wants to sell cars, to Americans, they must factor in that most are overextended as it is and need to resort to leasing. They will not even lease a 335 for 67k no matter how desparate. Other countries will gladly pay 67k for a 335, because they do have the coyne.

[stooken]

maybe that's why i hardly see any e92 335i's on the road.

[undecided]

Originally Posted by vladinecko

i think it's more than just currency difference that goes into the formula of calculating prices in different countries.

realistically, the US is nowhere near to being prepared for European car prices. i don't see anyone here paying $50,000+ for an entry level 3-series.

but with the speed our economy is declining, we may be paying those prices before we know it...

Mildly optioned, my 335xi Coupe stickered at around $50K

[gtrokin330]

i dont know about the bay but i know its almost impossible to find 335i's on the lot here in NY. everything is ordered.

I was so impatient i almost took a crimson red on saddle brown, glad i didnt do that LOL

[abmw]

Originally Posted by Desi

Could it be BMWNAs response to the tanking US Dollar? Us Canadians are having a shit-fit up here because of the pricing discrepancy, however with our cars being built in Europe it isn't that conversion which matters, it's the Euro->CAD or Euro->USD. This is, of course, assuming that BMWNA actually does buy from BMWAG in Euros, as one exec was quoted as saying here in Canada. Perhaps BMWNA is finally adjusting to reflect the fact that one American Dollar just dosen't equal a whole lot of Euros anymore?

Oh, the value of the USD again... The dollar is so weak, yet we continue to buy BMW's and everything else for that matter cheaper than most other countries. As a country, we have higher average incomes, lower income taxes while paying lower sales taxes. What else is there? Well, our country makes it easier to do business here than many countries. What else? There are many consumers buying products here and if BMW wants to make more sales, they must price competatively... Period. Does the exchange rate have directly influence pricing?? Not so much...

[2manycars1]

You can get a nice discount on the east coast on any of the 335 cars. If you are paying almost 3K ADM, I am sure you could get a car to you for a lot less even after paying freight charges.

I bought my 335 convertible (almost 60K sticker) for about 57K.

[Ateneo_BluEagles]

e92 pricing is a double edge sword:
- Here in LA, you could only get $1000-$1500 off MSRP. Which is mind boggling with so many BMW dealers in the area.

- Yet at the same time; e92's are ridiculously so expensive that you hardly see them on the road. E92's are more exclusive than the 5 series IMO.

[vladinecko]

Originally Posted by undecided

Mildly optioned, my 335xi Coupe stickered at around $50K

that is true, but i don't consider mildly optioned 335xi an entry level 3 series. what i had in mind was a stock E90 328i.

[vladinecko]

Originally Posted by 2manycars1

You can get a nice discount on the east coast on any of the 335 cars. If you are paying almost 3K ADM, I am sure you could get a car to you for a lot less even after paying freight charges.

I bought my 335 convertible (almost 60K sticker) for about 57K.

oh how do i miss PA prices...

[NaTuReB0Y]

$15,000 "market adjustments" on the 335i convertible at BMW of Riverside.....

[vladinecko]

Originally Posted by NaTuReB0Y

$15,000 "market adjustments" on the 335i convertible at BMW of Riverside.....

OMG! now that is plain absurd. i wanna go to the dealer and tell them, keep dreaming.

a nicely optioned E93 335 can easily cost $60k+. with $15k markup, you get to $75-$80k, which touches base M5, way overshoots 550i and is up par with 650i (even convertible).

[NaTuReB0Y]

Originally Posted by vladinecko

OMG! now that is plain absurd. i wanna go to the dealer and tell them, keep dreaming.

a nicely optioned E93 335 can easily cost $60k+. with $15k markup, you get to $75-$80k, which touches base M5, way overshoots 550i and is up par with 650i (even convertible).

$40,000 mark-ups on the M6..........hahaha!

$146,000($106k+$40k) for an M6................they called it "Market Value"

[vladinecko]

i hope you're kidding! there is absolutely no way there exists a dumb enough person in the world to pay that kind of money for M6

[amgrocket]

Additional dealer markup is absurd especially in today's economy especially for a non exclusive car. I have a very good connection with the sales manager at Bmw of Mtn. View. I'm confident he would work a below sticker price for any 3series of your choice. If you or anyone else is interested in the bay area, shoot me a pm.

Tom

[Neema]

Originally Posted by Ateneo_BluEagles

e92 pricing is a double edge sword:
- Here in LA, you could only get $1000-$1500 off MSRP. Which is mind boggling with so many BMW dealers in the area.

- Yet at the same time; e92's are ridiculously so expensive that you hardly see them on the road. E92's are more exclusive than the 5 series IMO.

more exclusive then a 5 series? what are you talking about man haha? The E92 has only been out for about a year now......the E60 5 series has been out for many years now. That probably explains why you see a few more 5'ers then 3'ers........thats for now at least.

[MMAJNKE]

yup the demand is high when I got my brand new 2008 model they were charging 5000 markup but of course I didnt pay it thankgod they know how hot the coupe is right now and people will pay

[Ateneo_BluEagles]

Originally Posted by Boost_Nation

more exclusive then a 5 series? what are you talking about man haha? The E92 has only been out for about a year now......the E60 5 series has been out for many years now. That probably explains why you see a few more 5'ers then 3'ers........thats for now at least.

^ hehehe, everytime I drive to Irvine or Wilshire i see a lot of "new" 5 series (those with no license plates/dealer plates and redesigned taillaights & front amber reflectors)

[vladinecko]

exclusive or not, it's still not a ferrari or aston martin. $15k mark-up on an M6 or a $5k mark-up on a 335i is absolutely ridiculous.

[CALIF65GM]

LOL $4999 Mkt Adjustment on the Platinum Bronze e93-35 that I test drove.

They took the Mulroney sticker off too and only had the little market adjustment price tag left on the windshield.

[BMWE90]

Originally Posted by vladinecko

exclusive or not, it's still not a ferrari or aston martin. $15k mark-up on an M6 or a $5k mark-up on a 335i is absolutely ridiculous.

+1

I guess it's all business. They can make anything look exclusive if they want to. Just hope no one will fall into that trap.

[NaTuReB0Y]

i will take pictures of the mark-ups next time i take my car in for a second free oil change at 40,000 miles......hopefully, this december.

[Sideshow]

Originally Posted by gtrokin330

I was so impatient i almost took a crimson red on saddle brown, glad i didnt do that LOL

Really? Thats what I'm picking up Sunday.....