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      04-05-2009, 11:55 PM   #23
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Lubed it with some oil that was in the stock FMIC

that being said.. I'm gonna get an OCC next.
Good idea.. I just put mine in today. At 19,000 miles there was quite a bit of oil just in the tubing alone. I don't want to see how much is in my IC when its time to install the helix. Should have done it so much sooner.
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Looking good. Good alternative to cutting $400 stock couplers and bumper. I called BMW to check pricing on couplers.

JP , how long did it take for the install from start to finish?? was it as easy as it looks?
Before you make statements like that you should know what you are talking about. You cut ZERO couplers. All you do is cut the clamp. You can buy a new clamp at autozone for $1 a piece.
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dyno appointment scheduled, 8am tomorrow
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Before you make statements like that you should know what you are talking about. You cut ZERO couplers. All you do is cut the clamp. You can buy a new clamp at autozone for $1 a piece.
Before you post, please read the post above. I clarified my point. I am out of here...dont want to hijack JP's thread.
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The hose clamp for the coupler entering into the intercooler needs to be cut for most of the FMIC's out there. This can be replaced by one of the reusable clamps that the aftermarket FMICs come with. I know because I took out the OEM FMIC and cut this clamp off and then used one of the T-bolt calmps that came with my code3 to re-install the OEM FMIC, with no problems. But I see your point, this is a different clamp than the OEM clamp. The VK FMIC is great in terms of being stealth for having mods.
Thanks for understanding. That was my point. No flame intended on other IC's
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Right away I feel a difference, the car pulls incredibly strong and it keeps on pulling that way over and over. I can guarantee this will show on the dyno — I'll be going on tuesday to get that done.
You did feel more power only by installing the VK FMIC (so no extra software installation AFTER you have installed the VK)? If so, that is a good to hear.
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I'm using the CANbus stage 3 map, which is designed for catless cars with a FMIC.
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I installed my VK fmic yesterday just using one jack stand it it did not take long at all. Like JP I had to drill a hole but that took maybe 2min. Everything else fit just fine and the use of the oem collars works just fine. Just make sure that it clicks in to place on both sides and you are set. The install was done so fast I was shocked, I can feel a difference as well for sure. I plan on getting the car dynoed. I will be making a purchase for the VK oil cooler very soon as well. Anybody on the fence on to what intercooler to get do not hesitate with this one. This is a great product at an even better price.
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fwiw those pics don't show the difference in ic size that well, in person the the vk looked bigger than the pics show. another tip for anyone installing one of these, the driver side hose might need to be twisted one way or the other to get the two "notches" to line up and fully engage.
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dyno appointment scheduled, 8am tomorrow
I'm glad everything worked well!
What were your numbers during your last visit?

From what I understand, you are going to be also upgrading to a different map to go along with the IC.
Will you also do some pulls with the same map that you are using right now please?
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I'm glad everything worked well!
What were your numbers during your last visit?

From what I understand, you are going to be also upgrading to a different map to go along with the IC.
Will you also do some pulls with the same map that you are using right now please?
I'm already on the CANbus stage 3 map, which should be adapted for when I get to the dyno tomorrow. I wasn't planning on doing any pulls with a lower staged map. I'm not entirely sure if I can run older firmware with the stage 2 map now since i'm running the canbus equipped rev II. Shiv would have to let me know, but he is busy tuning the ASR car

Last time with the stock FMIC on the stage 2 map I put down 390whp std (408 uncorrected).
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It is fair to test the IC with the new map, that is part of the benefit. Just don't post any more uncorrected numbers please!
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Last time i posted uncorrected numbers side by side with the corrected numbers. I will do the same this time, but only to piss you off since you actually mentioned it again
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I'm already on the CANbus stage 3 map, which will be adapted when I get to the dyno tomorrow. I wasn't planning on doing any pulls with a lower staged map.

Last time with the stock FMIC on the stage 2 map I put down 390whp std (408 uncorrected).
Yah sorry, I finally saw your response in the other thread.
When I made my statement in your other thread about increases, I was talking about adding solely an IC with a car that already produces that much power. I didn't notice that you were going to be changing to a more agressive map. Adding a more agressive map alone will most likely produce more power.

The reason why I'm bringing this up is to bring people back to reality. People need to understand that adding mods is not linear. Just because an IC makes 20 whp on a stock car will not make 20 whp on a 335 that is already achieving 390 whp.
The main ideology about ICs is the ability to prevent against heatsoak.

For those who disagree, it would be nice to see a couple runs with the Stage 2 map with this IC. I've been wrong before.
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re: your comment about making more power with the stage 3 map without the upgarded FMIC: I went to the dyno last time with the stage 3 map fully adapted (thinking I might benefit from that map since i have 93 octane and we had cooler weather). In the end the fully adapted stage 3 map made LESS power than the proper stage 2 map... even though when i changed to the stage 2 map the car was heat soaked after doing 5-6 runs.

cliffnotes: stage 3 with no upgarded fmic made less power than the proper stage 2 map.

The stage 3 map with the proper mods (upgarded FMIC) will produce more power... we'll know how much more tomorrow morn. I am very interested

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Yah sorry, I finally saw your response in the other thread.
When I made my statement in your other thread about increases, I was talking about adding solely an IC with a car that already produces that much power. I didn't notice that you were going to be changing to a more agressive map. Adding a more agressive map alone will most likely produce more power.

The reason why I'm bringing this up is to bring people back to reality. People need to understand that adding mods is not linear. Just because an IC makes 20 whp on a stock car will not make 20 whp on a 335 that is already achieving 390 whp.
The main ideology about ICs is the ability to prevent against heatsoak.

For those who disagree, it would be nice to see a couple runs with the Stage 2 map with this IC. I've been wrong before.
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quit yapping about it, just go now!!!
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8am tomorrow!!
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re: your comment about making more power with the stage 3 map without the upgarded FMIC: I went to the dyno last time with the stage 3 map fully adapted (thinking I might benefit from that map since i have 93 octane and we had cooler weather). In the end the fully adapted stage 3 map made LESS power than the proper stage 2 map... even though when i changed to the stage 2 map the car was heat soaked after doing 5-6 runs.

cliffnotes: stage 3 with no upgarded fmic made less power than the proper stage 2 map.

The stage 3 map with the proper mods (upgarded FMIC) will produce more power... we'll know how much more tomorrow morn. I am very interested
Interesting. We'll see then.
Do you have the graphs to post?
It would be nice to see the differences.
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yeah i plan on comparing to those graphs tomorrow
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I'm using the CANbus stage 3 map, which is designed for catless cars with a FMIC.
That is ok, but the question is:

1. You have youre CANbus stage 3 map with OEM FMIC (fast drive)
2. Then you installed the VK Intercooler
3. Then you felt faster driving? (extra fast drive)

So, in this example, you only changed the IC and the car felt faster.
(Or did you install the VK AND other mods at the same time, and then the car felt faster)?
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Correct, i was running the stage 3 canbus map (with the stock FMIC), added the FMIC and it felt faster. But that makes perfect sense since the map was designed for a car with an upgraded FMIC... it is too aggressive for the stock FMIC
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Ok, that is good to hear. I have the ACS1 tune (375 BHP at the cranck, that is enough for me). Tested and approved for the stock FMIC. But, I really do feel power loss after two or three times hard pulling on the highway. I do beleive that the VK IC can be benefitial as well in my situation. Just prefenting from heatsoaking.
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