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Raced a Jeep SRT8 uphill at 4500 ft. from 0-100.
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04-07-2007, 06:52 AM | #68 | |
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Motor Trend (8/01 issue) lists the M3 as 13.2@106.9 1/4 Mile. 0-60mph 4.7 seconds Motor Trend (4/02 issue) lists the M5 as 13.1@109.4 1/4 Mile. 0-60mph 4.6 seconds. (V8) So either way, once you get your fantastic 4WD launch out of the picture, a car with a 107mph trap speed will be "walking away" from your 104mph trap speed SRT8. And as speeds increase, the parasitic loses of your AWD, and brick like aerodynamics, will somehow make you do better against the BMW at top end? Sounds pretty logical to me! Try racing a BMW with the speed governor taken off, actually, Plenty of M3s owners have reported going over 165mph anyways, as the speed governors seem to vary. So you put an engine almost twice as big in the Jeep as the M3, and it barely can perform as well? Your 6.1L against a 3.2L 6cylinder? So almost twice the engine size, and your car doesn't weight twice as much (not quite 7000lbs is it?), so you should easily beat the BMW. But somehow it doesn't happen....wonder why? Must be that great engineering. Secondly, worse gas mileage than a Viper? Now theres something to be proud of. Now, I have seen videos of 335i sedans with software walking away from E39 M5s, and as you can tell from the Motor Trend tests, (4.6 0-60, 13.1@109.4mph), the old V8 M5 would easily walk away from your Jeep in any roll on street encounter. You have to rely on your AWD launch that will hurt you on anything but a drag race encounter from a stand still. I would take terminal speed any day over good launch with less top end anytime..but to each his own. Last edited by hotrod182; 04-07-2007 at 07:57 AM.. |
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04-07-2007, 07:49 AM | #69 |
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http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...64482729587715
I think this should settle the GC SRT8 vs 335i discussion. It would be close if it was the 300C SRT8 as it is 600 lbs lighter. |
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04-07-2007, 08:08 AM | #70 | |
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There are already 3 video posts (including this one) on page 3 of this thread. It didn't settle it for the SRT 8 trolls. Dave already posted 4 of his own in response. Fact is, it all depends on the driver and the conditions. |
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04-07-2007, 08:12 AM | #71 | ||
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stock for stock its probably a close race, but with the procede IT WOULDNT BE CLOSE....AT ALL.
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04-07-2007, 08:14 AM | #73 |
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oh i know just wanted to point that out, since nobody caught it yet and its pretty funny.
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04-07-2007, 09:09 AM | #74 |
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I honestly cant believe what Dave is saying... first of all, he claims that the 335 is a bad looking car. It is honestly one of the sexiest cars i've ever seen (thats why i bought one, aside from the obvious performance stats) . The SRT8 is fast, for an SUV, but cannot compete with the lighter BMW. The SRT8 runs a similar (but still slower) 1/4 mile time as the 335 but honestly, if I cared about 1/4 mile times that much I would have bought a Mustang.
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04-07-2007, 11:00 AM | #76 | |
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We should all go to the Grand Cherokee forum and hang out there! Like we have nothing better to do...LOL. |
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04-07-2007, 06:48 PM | #79 |
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What kind of speed should a Cobra Mustang be running at the end of the 1/4 mile? I mean, this puts it a little slower pace than what the 6.0 GTOs were running. They were running about the same as my M3...13.5sec, on that same day at the track.
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My 4800lb Jeep is 4800lbs for a reason. I can hold four friends and all of their shit, smoke your M3, and head to the slopes with no worries about road conditions. Speed limiter taken off? Thats not stock. Grand SRT8s will do 165-167mph stock as well. |
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04-07-2007, 11:07 PM | #83 |
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Where on the Vishnu website does it say thats WHP?
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04-07-2007, 11:09 PM | #84 | |
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Its playful banter but everything I have said is true. |
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04-07-2007, 11:31 PM | #85 |
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Dave, too bad you got the jeep. Should have pick the evo instead if you want awd. If you understand anything about handling and mods intead of POSing you would have understand the evo is a much better CAR. I walked SRT8 jeep, SRT8 300, SRT8 magnum around here in my evo on the street and racetrack. Those heavy thing can barely take the esses, and on the caroulsel forget about it.
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04-08-2007, 02:52 AM | #86 |
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it's not on the website, the copy of the dyno is here...http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=43252
Soapbox Alert! General statements not directed at any one person. These threads have gotten out of hand on both sites. Both the 335 and the SRT8's, whether we're talking Jeep's or Magnums or 300C's all serve different purposes. As an owner of both "American Muscle" and "German engineering", I can tell you that both types of cars are great in their own way and I'm happy to be fortunate enough to have both. Some of the statements made by both sides are just comical, silly and serve no purpose then to enflame others. At the end of the day, who cares who is faster than whom? There are alot more important things in life to worry about. The cars are close enough that if you run them 100 times in a simulator, it's probably a 50/50 split on the winner. Any race between them is not won by the car, it's won by the driver. Just be happy that you are blessed enough have what you what and stop blah, blah, blahing about meaningless crap. I will most likely outrun the car of every person who has posted here both in a straight line and on a track and you know what, big deal. It doesn't put more food on my plate or shoes on my kid's feet. At the end of the day it doesn't amount to shit as far as life's concerned. Bottom line, these threads have more than outlived their usefulness and I'd hope that both sides will just move on to more important things. Last edited by Carnage; 04-08-2007 at 03:38 AM.. |
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04-08-2007, 04:40 AM | #87 | |
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I wasn't impressed at the track with GTO's. The LS2 makes great power but the car weighs 3,850 lbs...They struggle to get into 12's. |
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