330d no temp gauge

sadsac · 04-01-2015, 03:35 PM

find this really annoying, how do people judge when the engine is up to temp and safe to use your heavy right foot?!! Are the only options obd dongle or secret obc menu (both of which are a pain to use regularly)?

dest · 04-01-2015, 04:38 PM

Put the hidden menu on and then do a drive you do regularly from home, eg. going to work and you will be able to roughly gauge from that at what point of the route or how long its taken to get up to temp. Then in future you will have a decent idea of when its warmed up enough.
Remember oil takes longer to get to temp than the coolant though

Jimmy-F46 M-sport · 04-01-2015, 05:10 PM

It's a pain in the arse, I mean how hard would it have been for BMW to put a temp gauge in? Every other manufacturer manages! That's me got two cars now that the first you know your overheating is a bloody warning message, nearly as much use as the oil pressure warning light that's only purpose seems to inform you that your engine is mulered lol

Digitalize · 04-01-2015, 05:33 PM

The M3 has an oil temp gauge.

It's the only car that needs one.

Buy a Performance Steering wheel with the display in.

Dan-danGT · 04-01-2015, 06:28 PM

I agree with the op why put a fuel consumption gauge when it's useless. Obviously if you press the throttle more fuel will be used. They should have sacked that gauge off and fitted either oil or coolant temp gauges.

Rudz · 04-02-2015, 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Digitalize

The M3 has an oil temp gauge.

It's the only car that needs one.

Buy a Performance Steering wheel with the display in.

The 335i has the temperature gauge too, mine does at least, find it very helpful, with u on this OP, annoying not to have one on premium car such as this

Rich_D · 04-02-2015, 07:06 AM

It is annoying, this is the first car I've had without a coolant temp gauge, in contrast my M5 has both coolant & oil temp gauges, the oil takes much longer to get up to temp than the coolant though.

The0pportunist · 04-02-2015, 07:22 AM

This is probably not the best way to judge but i find if my car can instantly tell me my oil level, its up to adequate temp. If it spins and spins (when the car is cold or when it has just been started) I would be a bit more gentle.

P.s i have non-idrive, 4pot.

Stoatmaster · 04-02-2015, 07:37 AM

I have an factory oil temp gauge on my 330i which I am pleased with as I typically try to ensure I have one on all my cars. I wouldn't say the M3 is the only one that requires one, you should not be booting any vehicle that doesn't have its fluids warmed up correctly. Only thing I do find annoying is the complete lack of a coolant gauge!

dest · 04-02-2015, 08:02 AM

It's a shame you can't code the water temp gauge to be a permanent option rather than hidden

sadsac · 04-02-2015, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by dest

Put the hidden menu on and then do a drive you do regularly from home, eg. going to work and you will be able to roughly gauge from that at what point of the route or how long its taken to get up to temp. Then in future you will have a decent idea of when its warmed up enough.
Remember oil takes longer to get to temp than the coolant though

good idea and best compromise I guess, cheers

sadsac · 04-02-2015, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by dest

It's a shame you can't code the water temp gauge to be a permanent option rather than hidden

yeah if you code it so the temp displayed in the dash that would be very handy, especially as space is taken up by the clock and there's already a clock on the idrive

tmarshall57 · 04-02-2015, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by jimmy-320d

It's a pain in the arse, I mean how hard would it have been for BMW to put a temp gauge in? Every other manufacturer manages! That's me got two cars now that the first you know your overheating is a bloody warning message, nearly as much use as the oil pressure warning light that's only purpose seems to inform you that your engine is mulered lol

It's a ploy by BMW to avoid exposing how frequently their thermostats fail and how much expense can be incurred as a result.

m20b25 · 04-03-2015, 04:21 AM

I put a cluster from a 335i with the temp needle in mine. Works perfectly apart the red dot which can be removed by swapping the eeprom chip.

If you put a 335 clock in a car without changing the chip first, make sure it has less miles than yours! The cluster will show the higher mileage of the two (car or cluster).

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dest Major 89 Rep 1,378 Posts Drives: LCI E91 320d M Sport Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Northamptonshire iTrader: (4)	Put the hidden menu on and then do a drive you do regularly from home, eg. going to work and you will be able to roughly gauge from that at what point of the route or how long its taken to get up to temp. Then in future you will have a decent idea of when its warmed up enough. Remember oil takes longer to get to temp than the coolant though
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Dan-danGT Captain 33 Rep 650 Posts Drives: E90 330d M-Sport Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Nottinghamshire iTrader: (0)	I agree with the op why put a fuel consumption gauge when it's useless. Obviously if you press the throttle more fuel will be used. They should have sacked that gauge off and fitted either oil or coolant temp gauges.
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Rich_D Captain 95 Rep 666 Posts Drives: E90 330d M Sport LCI Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Lancs, UK iTrader: (0)	It is annoying, this is the first car I've had without a coolant temp gauge, in contrast my M5 has both coolant & oil temp gauges, the oil takes much longer to get up to temp than the coolant though.
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The0pportunist Major 471 Rep 1,268 Posts Drives: F30 335i Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: London iTrader: (0)	This is probably not the best way to judge but i find if my car can instantly tell me my oil level, its up to adequate temp. If it spins and spins (when the car is cold or when it has just been started) I would be a bit more gentle. P.s i have non-idrive, 4pot.
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Stoatmaster Private First Class 9 Rep 103 Posts Drives: E92 330i M Sport (MT) Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Wales iTrader: (0)	I have an factory oil temp gauge on my 330i which I am pleased with as I typically try to ensure I have one on all my cars. I wouldn't say the M3 is the only one that requires one, you should not be booting any vehicle that doesn't have its fluids warmed up correctly. Only thing I do find annoying is the complete lack of a coolant gauge!
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dest Major 89 Rep 1,378 Posts Drives: LCI E91 320d M Sport Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Northamptonshire iTrader: (4)	It's a shame you can't code the water temp gauge to be a permanent option rather than hidden
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m20b25 First Lieutenant 21 Rep 352 Posts Drives: E90 M3 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: London iTrader: (0)	I put a cluster from a 335i with the temp needle in mine. Works perfectly apart the red dot which can be removed by swapping the eeprom chip. If you put a 335 clock in a car without changing the chip first, make sure it has less miles than yours! The cluster will show the higher mileage of the two (car or cluster).
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