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11-09-2012, 11:31 AM | #45 | |
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11-09-2012, 11:37 AM | #46 |
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So one can upgrade to S3 for $400 or another alternative is to simply add JB+ ontop of Dinan S2 (which is actually more power than S3) to add extra boost while the Dinan software still does most of the work.
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11-09-2012, 11:58 AM | #48 |
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^I have 3 Dinan shops local to me, 2 of which are inside BMW dealerships.
I've had a HPFP and an injector bank replaced under warranty and have had no problems at all. My SA is a great guy, and there is where the answer lies! As a follow up to the S3 package, the car has really impressed me and I cannot be happier with my results. I have no problem recommending it to anyone reading this and even more so if you are on the Dinan up grade pathway. It's been a bigger jump than I was expecting! |
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11-09-2012, 01:07 PM | #51 | |
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As to my Dinan products, I have the intercooler, the oil cooler and of course the S3 flash. Frankly, looking at the Dinan website, the numbers don't add up for me(ie each Dinan product has a set number of awarded points and if you hit a certain level you get a badge). But the last time I looked my point totals were not sufficient to qualify but maybe they changed the requirements. Either way, my plan was always to have more of a sleeper, rather than putting a sign on my car that says, vroom vroom vroom, come one come all! |
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11-09-2012, 02:32 PM | #53 | |
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I didn't know that Dinan made an oil cooler. Is that new? I'd be interested in some dyno numbers if you ever get a chance. |
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11-09-2012, 03:21 PM | #54 | |
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Not sure if the OC is a new product but it's a prerequisite for the S3. A piggyback version if your car already has one, or a full size version if your 335i didn't come with one. The latter adds $1000 to the cost I think. |
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11-10-2012, 02:56 PM | #55 | |
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The other venders have been knocked plenty....lol, you must be kidding. Ive owned Dinan software on BMWs and my opinion is that it SUCKS, especially after replacing it with another vender's software who's actually makes power. I can say this from actual experience. Have YOU tried another software brand on any BMWs you've owned? hmmmmmmmmm The power (or lack there of) from the software is not the biggest deal for me but the prices they charge for software and hardware. Why is there $400 upcharge for software when you're already a loyal customer? Why does and intercooler have to cost $1700 when it's no better than a Helix? None of their pricing makes sense and really does nothing to help returning customers. Also, their warranties are not helpful as Ive seen several loyal customers get screwed due to hardware (exhaust) failures. you and a few of the other Dinanites need to be dunked in a bucket of tough skin....thin skin is showing.
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11-10-2012, 04:20 PM | #56 |
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Dinan you pay for a lot of things, but specifically that warranty, CARB certifications (no worries with visual), and the Brand Name/Marketing, which bring pride of ownership to some. All of these hold a lot of value to some people. Dinan does tend to be more conservative, but they are also on the line if something grenades in your car. Neither Shiv nor Terry will buy you a motor if it blows up, Steve Dinan will. This costs a lot of money that neither Shiv nor Terry need to spend.
Yes, you pay more for less performance, but you get other things which are VERY expensive for a company to provide. Some people on these forums just don't get it. If you look at my Mod List, you will see I am NOT a Dinan Fan Boi.
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how many N54 motors have we seen blown on this or other forums? Maybe 2...and one of those was pushed to the max....
Dinan's warranty is NOT 100% as I stated above. Ive seen them deny a customer for an exhaust system breaking apart because they had mist spray system in conjunction with their SC system. That's horse sh*t. I understand that because they have the deal with BMW they have to make certain parts/software conservative to stay away from potential problems, but they make price so insanely high and for what, so you can say I have Dinan? please.... What is the other "things that are very expensive to provide"? What about customer service? Do you ever see Dinan reps on a forum? Hell no... I gurantee you Dinan will make the process of replacing a blown motor painful before they pay out. Plenty of us "get it" and stay away from it.
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11-10-2012, 05:07 PM | #58 | |
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I was nervous about tuners other than Dinan until i actually saw how knowledgeable and well-loved Vishnu and, in particular, Shiv is. Thats when i knew that Dinan could bite it
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11-10-2012, 08:36 PM | #59 | |
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Many, not all dealership techs will not work on a modded car. As there might be the occasional exception with Dinan not owning up to warranty claims, there are exceptions of dealerships who are mod friendly, but the general consensus is you remove mods when going in for warranty engine work. And the general consensus is Dinan will warranty their modded cars. As with anything people like to point out the exceptions to make a point. I guess the Dinan Tunes are too mild to really cause any serious damage but if some freak accident, perhaps due to manufacturing etc BMW tries to blame Dinan, at least you have a more legit legal recourse, as Dinan has legally written and binding warranties. I hate making generalities, but for the sake of this thread I will. Typical Dinan customer: High Income Busy Enthusiast, but not at the level where they need to know how everything under the hood is put together or how it works. Loves PLUG AND PLAY, especially if they are not the ones plugging. Loves Set it and forget it, and when the car acts up they just drop it off, you really can't have the dealer try to trouble shoot an issue with a car that has a procede or JB installed. Typical Forum Enthusiast: Various Incomes OBSESSED with learning every nuance of the car Generally (not always) on a tighter budget More free time to visit the boards, learn and work on their cars. OCD with a drive to squeeze every bit of performance within their more limited budgets (not always, but many times) ------------------------------------------------ Shiv and Terry are going after a different crowd, obviously there will be overlaps. If the guy likes Dinan, good for him, he has a bit of money to throw around, but will generally get more friendly dealer support for his car. At the end we are all looking to have a good time with our toys
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Obsessed is when you have PC you keep in the car that is loaded with various Tuner Programs, NCS, INPA, BavTech and German Translators for module coding. And you keep spare Injectors, Decoupling units, and Spark Plugs in your Trunk, just in case you need to swap one out to solve a misfire that is driving you mad.
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11-11-2012, 12:27 PM | #66 | |
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So you feel snobbed by Dinan guys? Funny I don't see much if any of that here but maybe you can read between the lines I don't know, but I've never felt other tunes were unworthy of praise and it's not obvious to me other Dinan guys feell that way either, maybe a few on the extremes but even then they mostly only come out when provoked or attacked. As the OP, I'll say it's time the heal all this and get to the real issues...fun with the cars we love to hate and then love again when we get behind the wheel and back on the road time and time again. Last edited by shortseller; 11-11-2012 at 07:50 PM.. |
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