Getting raped by VA Car tax.... 2010 assessments are in.

markinva · 07-23-2010, 01:47 PM

My car is a 2009, last year my tax assessment was $1100 and now it's $1200 in 2010. Like it actually went UP

Anyone else in this boat?

They claim my car is worth over $40k 2 years later.... no chance in hell that's true!

Raja Ventureshield · 07-23-2010, 02:30 PM

i have had the same issue. I went to the Fairfax County office and disputed them.
They told me my car was worth 9k more than what I paid for a year earlier. So i took my invoice and talked to the manager asking how can my car be valued at 9k more when I bought the car about a year ago for x-9k. They adjusted it accordingly. They just use the highest number available to them to make money. With the same token, if your car gets stolen - the insurance will surely give the lowest price for your car possible. You get raped twice. It's so much fun in VA. lol.

alex2364 · 07-23-2010, 02:40 PM

What did they lower it to? I just bought my 2009 335i for $38k. I wonder if I should show them my buyer's order. Haha!

MDyDinanM · 07-23-2010, 03:07 PM

if i'm not mistaken, when your car gets registered, the amount you paid for the car goes on record at the DMV, and i think that is what they use to assess the value of your car, and depreciate it accordingly.

Then most people qualify for VA tax relief, which is $20K off the initial value of the car. From there you take the remaining amount and i think its $4.57 for every $100 assessed in value of the car.

Perfectus · 07-23-2010, 04:00 PM

The first line is incorrect. I bought a brand new 2006 Suby Legacy GT for around 24k. When I got my tax bill for 2007, they put the value of the car as ~30k. I called and said the car was purchased for 24k and they said too bad.

I wish i pursued it further.

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Originally Posted by mdyaman

if i'm not mistaken, when your car gets registered, the amount you paid for the car goes on record at the DMV, and i think that is what they use to assess the value of your car, and depreciate it accordingly.

Then most people qualify for VA tax relief, which is $20K off the initial value of the car. From there you take the remaining amount and i think its $4.57 for every $100 assessed in value of the car.

MDyDinanM · 07-23-2010, 05:00 PM

well thanks to this thread, i'll do some math when i get my bill.

Basically whatever value they assess it at, i'll apply the VA tax rate, ratio, and offset for car tax relief since i qualify. If it is higher than what i paid for the car, i will argue it.

Raja Ventureshield · 07-23-2010, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Perfectus

The first line is incorrect. I bought a brand new 2006 Suby Legacy GT for around 24k. When I got my tax bill for 2007, they put the value of the car as ~30k. I called and said the car was purchased for 24k and they said too bad.

I wish i pursued it further.

yeah, in my case saved me 200$ or so I think. Was worth the trip.

Raja

335iSSA · 07-23-2010, 06:53 PM

I need to move back to Maryland!

“For valuation of automobiles, all localities use the National Automobile Dealers’ Association’s Official Used Car Guide (NADA) as their primary valuation guide for cars and sport utility vehicles. When a vehicle is not listed in the primary guide, the locality obtains values from some other source. All cities and counties in Virginia levy this tax on motor vehicles.” In all Virginia localities, the Car Tax assessments are based on the value as of January 1st (Virginia Code, Section 58.1-3515). "

Estimate the value here http://www.nadaguides.com/Cars/2007/BMW.

Then if the state is still covering 70% of the first 20k of assessed value you owe:
$140 + $45 * (# thousands over 20K of assessed value).

http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/dta/car...lification.htm

And here they recognize that some values have appreciated:
http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/dta/cartax_carvalues.htm

cshawkeye · 07-23-2010, 09:52 PM

Ah dammit, I hate this crap. I remember dealing with this last year. Luckily with my 2005 G35 coupe I had to only shell out about 400 bucks.

Eric the Ricer · 08-09-2010, 03:05 PM

I bought my 335i in January, just got my bill and it's $460.

pecophilly · 08-09-2010, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Eric the Ricer

I bought my 335i in January, just got my bill and it's $460.

Bought mine last October. it was 350 last year and over 800 for this year. YAY

Spydeputy · 08-09-2010, 07:05 PM

wait till obama care comes in, now you employer will have to show your health care as part of your pay and you tax on that.

pecophilly · 08-09-2010, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Spydeputy

wait till obama care comes in, now you employer will have to show your health care as part of your pay and you tax on that.

supremenyc1994 · 08-09-2010, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by alex2364

What did they lower it to? I just bought my 2009 335i for $38k. I wonder if I should show them my buyer's order. Haha!

$38K Out of Door for a 335i with M-Tech. Where did you purchase your car and who is the SA?

Viper Two Four · 08-09-2010, 09:24 PM

Mine is only 25 bucks a year got to love having you car register out of state

alex2364 · 08-09-2010, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by supremenyc1994

$38K Out of Door for a 335i with M-Tech. Where did you purchase your car and who is the SA?

Haha, I actually hired an auto broker and he did the negotiating for me, but it was in pristine condition with 5000 miles from the Mercedes dealer in Fredericksburg.

Mookie469 · 08-09-2010, 09:48 PM

Mine was 10 dollars. Thanks to the military.

pecophilly · 08-10-2010, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Viper Two Four

Mine is only 25 bucks a year got to love having you car register out of state

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Originally Posted by Mookie469

Mine was 10 dollars. Thanks to the military.

Ahhhh yes, I remember those days...

lucas.kent · 08-10-2010, 08:24 AM

I'm so afraid to get mine. I got one for the 330 (for Jan-May before I sold it) and it was $189. I'm going to cry when I see what it's going to be for the 2011.

Dub E · 08-10-2010, 09:29 AM

I don't pay shit... love my PA plates and being military

pecophilly · 08-10-2010, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Dub E

I don't pay shit... love my PA plates and being military

Where in PA you from?!

Jake@MOTIV · 08-10-2010, 01:19 PM

I haven't gotten mine. I only lived in VA since Sept 09 and had to pay it in like December 09. Am I going to get it soon? Does it only come once a year?

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Raja Ventureshield Major General 288 Rep 5,686 Posts Drives: BMW M3 coupe Join Date: May 2007 Location: Northern VA iTrader: (6)	i have had the same issue. I went to the Fairfax County office and disputed them. They told me my car was worth 9k more than what I paid for a year earlier. So i took my invoice and talked to the manager asking how can my car be valued at 9k more when I bought the car about a year ago for x-9k. They adjusted it accordingly. They just use the highest number available to them to make money. With the same token, if your car gets stolen - the insurance will surely give the lowest price for your car possible. You get raped twice. It's so much fun in VA. lol.
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MDyDinanM OIF Veteran 246 Rep 2,106 Posts Drives: ///M Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: East Coast iTrader: (0) Garage List 2008 BMW M5 [6.88]	well thanks to this thread, i'll do some math when i get my bill. Basically whatever value they assess it at, i'll apply the VA tax rate, ratio, and offset for car tax relief since i qualify. If it is higher than what i paid for the car, i will argue it. __________________ Retired: '06 BMW E46 ///M3 Current: '08 BMW E60 DINAN ///M5, Interlagos Blue, SMG DINAN Stage 2 Suspension, Exhaust, Stage III Software, Front strut braces, Intakes, 13% Underdrive pulley, 3.91 Differential, RPI Scoops.
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335iSSA Captain 15 Rep 603 Posts Drives: 07' E92 335i Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Frederick, MD iTrader: (10)	I need to move back to Maryland! “For valuation of automobiles, all localities use the National Automobile Dealers’ Association’s Official Used Car Guide (NADA) as their primary valuation guide for cars and sport utility vehicles. When a vehicle is not listed in the primary guide, the locality obtains values from some other source. All cities and counties in Virginia levy this tax on motor vehicles.” In all Virginia localities, the Car Tax assessments are based on the value as of January 1st (Virginia Code, Section 58.1-3515). " Estimate the value here http://www.nadaguides.com/Cars/2007/BMW. Then if the state is still covering 70% of the first 20k of assessed value you owe: $140 + $45 * (# thousands over 20K of assessed value). http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/dta/car...lification.htm And here they recognize that some values have appreciated: http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/dta/cartax_carvalues.htm
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