[Jeef Beef]

Originally Posted by playwithonehand

Hey SBC

I will try my best to come on the day. My only option is come 9am because there is no way i can leave work early.
Can't wait to do dyno test to find out the real horsepower. It tells you 0-100 time right?


Cheers! Diesel CHIPPOOOWWWAAAA

Dyno does not tell you 0-100. 0-100 isn't that important anyway since a dyno gives you a much better comparison with stock by providing you will wheel hp and torque.

[johnnydad]

Originally Posted by playwithonehand

My friend told me to change tyre too, he said run flat is very uncomfortable for long distance. What do you mean by borderline dangerous? Though i been experiencing few small wheel spin when i slam it mid-hard.
Do you think that was caused by tyre?

Few of my friend sort of say the dynolicious iphone software isn't too accurate and all that such so i am thinking to take it to dyno test next Sat at Auburn. but gotta work on the day.
Hopefully i get a early mark and get there before 4pm.

And thanks for reading! HAPPY CHIPPING

I suspect once you start getting more familiar with the car, using the power out of corners, you'll find the rear lacks grip. Still far better than a Falcon or somesuch and the DSC is brilliant but you'll enjoy the car much more with better tyres. Even a set of 17's with 225/45 Continental RFTs transformed our wagon and if you instead move to non run-flats, there are plenty of inexpensive, excellent tyres in that size - I recently had a quote for $225 a corner on Michelin PS3s for example.

[playwithonehand]

Originally Posted by nosmash

Do you need to re-flash the programming after bringing it to the dealers? Or will the dealers discover that you have a superchip on?

The only time the dealer will re-flash the ECU is when there is a major recall on the car. Example 07 320i have a big problem with bla bla bla, so they usually recall their call within 2years and do a major upgrade to fix this.

Normal car service they will only upgrade small things like windscreen wipers etc. I went to one of the other mechanic "BEMW" and tried autologic (like GT1 a bmw car diagnostic tool) It reads, if my car need to upgrade all the firmware it will require 7hours and 35mins which is really not likely that they will upgrade it unless major upgrade needed. Also 7hours of update still require someone to monitor the car closely which make it even more likely.

This was one of the big concern when i did mine but Peter said out of all the cars he did, only happened to two cars.
(I am sure he did more than 100 cars/he showed me his REMAP file folder)
So i asked him what if it really happened to me that dealer overwrite the ecu setting?
He said he will put it back for you for $150 labour cost.

I think there is no way a dealer can find out unless they did a dyno test on your car which is unlikely.

[nosmash]

Originally Posted by Jeef Beef

He will need to go back to the stock tune before service or warranty for the powertrain will very likely be voided.

6s shit that is brutal for a 320d! Though I doubt it's actually that fast, it still shows a substantial improvement over the stock time that you got.

SBC, are you full of regret?

And I would imagine that it will cost again to apply the superchip tune. Hopefully cheaper than the original cost.

Is there a tune out there for a 320d that is undetectable by the dealer or that will allow you to go back and forth if and when you visit the dealer?

[playwithonehand]

Originally Posted by Jeef Beef

6s shit that is brutal for a 320d! Though I doubt it's actually that fast, it still shows a substantial improvement over the stock time that you got.

SBC, are you full of regret?

Judging from the stock 320d supposely should get 8sec 0-100 but i got avaerge 7.7sec for 3run in 3 different location, so if i add 0.2-0.5 sec on top of my chiped 320d i am pretty confident it should get at least 6.5 sec on a dyno test/level race track. Which is still damn fast! STock 330d is 6.2sec.

Did i just upgrade myself to a 330d?

After chip i get alot wheel spin when start, mayb its time for new tyre.

SBC, u might have to wait for abit because Peter is going to Thailand next

[Jeef Beef]

Originally Posted by playwithonehand

The only time the dealer will re-flash the ECU is when there is a major recall on the car. Example 07 320i have a big problem with bla bla bla, so they usually recall their call within 2years and do a major upgrade to fix this.

Normal car service they will only upgrade small things like windscreen wipers etc. I went to one of the other mechanic "BEMW" and tried autologic (like GT1 a bmw car diagnostic tool) It reads, if my car need to upgrade all the firmware it will require 7hours and 35mins which is really not likely that they will upgrade it unless major upgrade needed. Also 7hours of update still require someone to monitor the car closely which make it even more likely.

This was one of the big concern when i did mine but Peter said out of all the cars he did, only happened to two cars.
(I am sure he did more than 100 cars/he showed me his REMAP file folder)
So i asked him what if it really happened to me that dealer overwrite the ecu setting?
He said he will put it back for you for $150 labour cost.

I think there is no way a dealer can find out unless they did a dyno test on your car which is unlikely.

While it is true that they will rarely conduct a software update, it is very easy for them to detect a tune. If the SA drives your car and it feels different (they drive HEAPS of cars per day so they will know) they might suspect something and just conduct a simple diagnostic. It will show that you are not running stock software.

IT IS EXTREMELY EASY FOR THE DEALER TO DETECT YOU HAVE A TUNE, IT INVOLVES A SIMPLE SOFTWARE DIAGNOSTIC. No dyno is needed. On top of that, they'll put a red flag on your car for your VIN on the BMWAUS database to note that you have powertrain modifications. If in the future you come in for warranty work related to the engine, transmission, diff, turbos etc. you may be denied due to your mods no matter what dealership you bring it to.

Originally Posted by nosmash

And I would imagine that it will cost again to apply the superchip tune. Hopefully cheaper than the original cost.

Is there a tune out there for a 320d that is undetectable by the dealer or that will allow you to go back and forth if and when you visit the dealer?

Any tune is detectable if its in place. You simply accelerate and it will be obvious. A simple diagnostic also reveals it unless the software has a 'stock' map function.

Originally Posted by playwithonehand

Judging from the stock 320d supposely should get 8sec 0-100 but i got avaerge 7.7sec for 3run in 3 different location, so if i add 0.2-0.5 sec on top of my chiped 320d i am pretty confident it should get at least 6.5 sec on a dyno test/level race track. Which is still damn fast! STock 330d is 6.2sec.

Did i just upgrade myself to a 330d?

After chip i get alot wheel spin when start, mayb its time for new tyre.

SBC, u might have to wait for abit because Peter is going to Thailand next

6.5s sounds pretty realistic, which is an amazing time for any car. Time for new tyres definitely.

[sbce90]

Originally Posted by Jeef Beef

SBC, are you full of regret?

You have no idea.

Still, might just wait another 7 or so months and get turbo petrol. Maybe a muztastic 335i? Not too keen on the whole fuel pump thing though. TOTALLY KEEN on the performance and potential. If only we got the 335d...

[samchuang33]

Originally Posted by SBC

You have no idea.

Still, might just wait another 7 or so months and get turbo petrol. Maybe a muztastic 335i? Not too keen on the whole fuel pump thing though. TOTALLY KEEN on the performance and potential. If only we got the 335d...

Agreed... 335d would be an awesome car. Thought about trading in my 330d for an F10 535d release this year . Apparently it does 0-100 in 5.7 where the 535i N55 does it in 6.2 sec

And just wait to u chip the 535d... It will drive like a rocket at any speed.

[sbce90]

A guy I know had a 535d Msport for less than a month. Drank too much diesel with his driving style. He managed to MAKE $18k on a trade in too o.O

Maybe buy a 535d.. then engine swap lol

[Rivenscyr]

my fuel consumption has been pretty bad these days, way to many short trips
(2 x 6~7km trip + 2 x >1km trip)
its at 8.9 per 100kms and this tank is probably only going to get me 750ish kms in total

whats yours like sam?

[samchuang33]

Originally Posted by Rivenscyr

my fuel consumption has been pretty bad these days, way to many short trips
(2 x 6~7km trip + 2 x >1km trip)
its at 8.9 per 100kms and this tank is probably only going to get me 750ish kms in total

whats yours like sam?

Mine is around 8.6 aswell. But I sure I can get it down to under 7 if I can control my left foot

I guess at the end of the day, if u were driving the petrol equivalent, u might find urself doing around 12-15l/100ks so regardless, 8-9l/100k is still not bad.

[sbce90]

left foot?

[playwithonehand]

Originally Posted by SBC

left foot?

Sam does Heel and toe with left foot, didn't you know that?

My first tank lasted 1031k and average 5L/100(bris to Syd)
The next two tank averaged 7.5L/100k (City driving)
I went for a trip to wollongong last week and was doing 4.7L/100k.

SO i am telling you Diesel is the future! stupid petrol cost too much/sometimes more than Diesel.

Once i filled a E10 petrol for my old car $1.49.9 and $1.43 for BP ult Diesel.

[sbce90]

Originally Posted by playwithonehand

Sam does Heel and toe with left foot, didn't you know that?

lol hectic use of the auto gearbox

[playwithonehand]

Originally Posted by Jeef Beef

While it is true that they will rarely conduct a software update, it is very easy for them to detect a tune. If the SA drives your car and it feels different (they drive HEAPS of cars per day so they will know) they might suspect something and just conduct a simple diagnostic. It will show that you are not running stock software.

IT IS EXTREMELY EASY FOR THE DEALER TO DETECT YOU HAVE A TUNE, IT INVOLVES A SIMPLE SOFTWARE DIAGNOSTIC. No dyno is needed. On top of that, they'll put a red flag on your car for your VIN on the BMWAUS database to note that you have powertrain modifications. If in the future you come in for warranty work related to the engine, transmission, diff, turbos etc. you may be denied due to your mods no matter what dealership you bring it to.

So my safest bet is dont go back to dealer for car service??
Thanks for the info, btw you must be Jeefrey from Facebook?
I remember you and Sanjeev commented on my GPS question.
Remember he said you have a bloody fast 1series Must be the 135i

I am David

[sbce90]

bahahahah am I Sanjeev? I have many names. Rossi is doing well.

[Jeef Beef]

Originally Posted by playwithonehand

So my safest bet is dont go back to dealer for car service??
Thanks for the info, btw you must be Jeefrey from Facebook?
I remember you and Sanjeev commented on my GPS question.
Remember he said you have a bloody fast 1series Must be the 135i

I am David

Yeh mate that'd be me, welcome to bimmerpost

If you want to go back to dealer for service, you should at least make sure you are running stock power so they don't suspect anything. If you have no incentive to do your services at the dealership then nothing is stopping you from going elsewhere.

Dealers are by law not allowed to force you to service with them. As long as its a logbook approved location then its all good.

[samchuang33]

Originally Posted by SBC

left foot?

Oops... Silly me

[QLD]

Ok br0.. so after a few weeks now with your baby remapped - is it still as good as you originally thought?

What about smoothness, auto changes etc etc... still got that factory smoothness, but with a much better power responsiveness - or any concerns/regrets??

Cheers..

[Sherweeeny]

And have you purchased wider stickier rubber to offset the supposed changes to your performance?

[playwithonehand]

Originally Posted by QLD

Ok br0.. so after a few weeks now with your baby remapped - is it still as good as you originally thought?

What about smoothness, auto changes etc etc... still got that factory smoothness, but with a much better power responsiveness - or any concerns/regrets??

Cheers..

Hi mate

Ya, i have never regret getting this tune because i really enjoy overtake with ease which i still could do with stock but alot more responsive/aggressive.

I meet few boys at the Max Brenner meeting the other day(AWESOME FUN), you can ask Rivenscyr and SBC on how they felt about the tune. At first it felt kinda of slow because cold engine and Riven weight 110kg
but on the way back it felt much faster. I also ask Riven the same question and this is what he said on fb.

"I think it pulls very smoothly, accelerates almost without noticing.
I believe its alot smoother than stock when accelerating hard."

If i can get SBC to give me some feed back, that would be nice too.

Regarding to smoothness, if i am on D its perfectly fine.
But the only concern is sometimes on DS, i do get little bit of jerk when flooring it hard. Also slight wheel spin at start but as i am still on 16tyre so most likely effect the grip. I need a 17 to unlock the full potential of the tune.

Still havn't got time to dyno yet but assuming if the figure is correct it will be +44hp/+100nm from stock 177hp/350nm.

Cheers

[playwithonehand]

Originally Posted by Sherweeeny

And have you purchased wider stickier rubber to offset the supposed changes to your performance?

Nope, i felt like a sad noob when everyone have awesome wheel and 18/19 tyre.

Still on 16, you reckon 17 is enough or 18 is better?
Need to save up $$, haha still need to pay back my sister.