Progman Update

ShadeZeRO · 09-24-2008, 07:21 PM

Hey,

What's the best way to convince a SA to perform a Progman update?

I had a hard enough time just for him to admit that I needed an iDrive update (for MP3 support).

I have the Progman Versions, and a few SIBs written down but not sure howto proceed.

cobradac · 09-25-2008, 09:10 PM

The latest list of PROGMAN (CIP) is located here: http://www.e90post.com/forums/showpo...38&postcount=9

As far as getting an upgrade it is the usual way: have a documented issue that is fixed by more current software. They even now include a statement in such SIBs that when the software is updated to fix the particular issue that ALL modules are updated if not up to the current level.

ShadeZeRO · 09-26-2008, 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cobradac

The latest list of PROGMAN (CIP) is located here: http://www.e90post.com/forums/showpo...38&postcount=9

As far as getting an upgrade it is the usual way: have a documented issue that is fixed by more current software. They even now include a statement in such SIBs that when the software is updated to fix the particular issue that ALL modules are updated if not up to the current level.

Are you referring to:

Quote:

Originally Posted by SIB PDF

Programming/Coding Explainations 09 07 07 September-08 ALL Progman Version vs. Vehicle Data Status (update to 7/08) 30.00.02 latest shown

? I gave my SA that SIB #, he said they wont update it unless there is a specific issue.
All the details on my Progman Version Table just says "Coding & programming" or "UNK"
Doesn't give me much to work with

cobradac · 09-26-2008, 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShadeZeRO

Are you referring to:

? I gave my SA that SIB #, he said they wont update it unless there is a specific issue.
All the details on my Progman Version Table just says "Coding & programming" or "UNK"
Doesn't give me much to work with

No, by specific issue I mean for example you might have the jolt/delay issue on an auto tranny (SIB 24 03 08) which is fixed by coding with new software. That would get you the upgrade. You have to have a PROBLEM and that problem has to be fixed by a software upgrade.

Since BMW no longer publishes a SIB on PROGMAN that simply lists what it fixes there is no quick and easy list to work with. If you don't have a real complaint, do not expect to get a software update.

IF you have issues post them up and maybe there is an SIB that covers it.

ShadeZeRO · 09-27-2008, 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cobradac

No, by specific issue I mean for example you might have the jolt/delay issue on an auto tranny (SIB 24 03 08) which is fixed by coding with new software. That would get you the upgrade. You have to have a PROBLEM and that problem has to be fixed by a software upgrade.

Since BMW no longer publishes a SIB on PROGMAN that simply lists what it fixes there is no quick and easy list to work with. If you don't have a real complaint, do not expect to get a software update.

IF you have issues post them up and maybe there is an SIB that covers it.

Funny thing is, I've had jolts before, and delays from Stop.
I figured it was the gas I was using.
I guess i'll bring it in.

aus · 10-02-2008, 11:07 PM

Could you expand on the Jolt or delay?

tmarshall57 · 10-04-2008, 05:25 AM

See

http://www.bmwtis.com/tsb/bulletins/...p/B240308g.htm

If you want details of a specific SIB then replace the 6 numbers in the link above with the number of the SIB you require. The above link provides details of SIB 24 03 08

Tony

ShadeZeRO · 10-12-2008, 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aus

Could you expand on the Jolt or delay?

They were random, and seem to have gone away. Im assuming i just had bad gas in the car.

Worst part with my idrive update is that I can't get back into the diagnostic menu. So I can't tell which CIP i have.

SoCalTech · 10-13-2008, 12:59 AM

The reasons we would update the software are: You have a problem that is solved with programming, we replace a control module, or we retrofit something such as sirius.
Or you could pay to have it updated.

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aus Major General 892 Rep 9,032 Posts Drives: Odysse Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Seal Beach, CA iTrader: (10)	Could you expand on the Jolt or delay? __________________ Let me get this straight... You are swapping out parts designed by some of the top engineers in the world because some guys sponsored by a company told you it's "better??" But when you ask the same guy about tracking, "oh no, I have a kid now" or "I just detailed my car." or "i just got new tires."
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SoCalTech Captain 24 Rep 648 Posts Drives: Not a BMW yet... Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Redondo Beach, Ca iTrader: (0)	The reasons we would update the software are: You have a problem that is solved with programming, we replace a control module, or we retrofit something such as sirius. Or you could pay to have it updated.
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