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09-16-2009, 10:19 AM | #45 |
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Fwiw, BMW did a ton of R&D on problems with pressure changes in the turbos during MT shifts.
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09-16-2009, 10:51 AM | #47 |
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The logs look just like mine mike:
It feels as good as it looks! Absolutely no lag or hesitation during shifts at all. I was plotting in excel and thought I was doing something wrong because of how well they match up. Bogfix FTW!!! |
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09-16-2009, 11:16 AM | #48 | |
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Furthermore, there's no point in reading/logging the manifold pressure sensor when it only reads up to 3-4psi. Especially when we are seeing 9-11psi of boost (manifold pressure) minimum during the shift. If you are serious about comparing our two features in a proper test, let's do it. But please drop the imposed testing constraints when you know they are unreasonable/impossible to meet. If it means that our system would have to be logged by the PROcede software and your system would have to be logged by the BT software, so be it. I believe our CANbus logging operates at a higher sampling rate which I'd be willing to ignore just for the sake of getting this test done. Shiv |
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09-16-2009, 11:22 AM | #49 | |
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sounds great..... it also sounds like it might make BOV's not so loud/stupid sounding .... i look forward to it for that too...... a BOV makes the car sound like a damn Evo or WRX (hahhah sorry shiv... no offense... i had a wrx a while back too..) ... but seriously... this sounds so cool for so many reasons !!! Last edited by inthemiddle; 09-16-2009 at 11:44 AM.. |
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09-16-2009, 11:56 AM | #50 | |
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Myself and JB3 customers have already posted logs showing instant throttle response on the 2->3 and 3>4. The only item left is how much boost we want to hold through shifts, and we're trying different things now. Too much may break something, but too little lets the DVs blow open. The sweet-spot may be around 7psi, but we'll see. I might add that the type of DV valves/springs/BOV used will greatly impact how much boost is being held through he shift as well. Tighter springs will hold more boost than stock DVs. Mike Last edited by Mike@N54Tuning.com; 09-16-2009 at 01:12 PM.. |
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09-16-2009, 12:16 PM | #51 |
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well actualy I would love to help you fellas out I have a 08 e92XI 6MT
I am actually just borrowing a JB3 from a friend while his car is in the shop to see what it is like. I have been on the fence for about a year now and would welcome a opportunity to do a fair non biased comparison. the only issue is I am in the Boston area. but if you fella want to ship out the boxs I will record the whole process in HD and dyno test both along with road test. I also have the BMW performance wheel in my car so I can read the G-Forces and temps quickly. so let me know if I can be of service......OH AND THE WINNER GETS MY BUSINESS so that means I will only be shipping one system back and paying for the other. oh and as a free bonus I own a marketing, Photgraphy, and Modeling company so I will be doing a spread on my car once the new site is up and will be covering all my mods. so said winner will get a article write up on my website and be included in my monthly news letter (email) |
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The key to keeping the bypass valves from discharging air during the shift is to twofold: 1) Keep intercooler pipe pressure from spiking as a result of the inevitable throttle closure. 2) Keep enough pressure to the top of the diaphragm to keep it sealed. But there's yet another key to making your DME actually accept this condition. And that has to do with being able to induce a appropriate ignition timing adjustment during the upshift event. If you don't have the ability to do this, your actual "sweet spot" will be lower than it could otherwise be. Shiv |
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09-16-2009, 12:19 PM | #53 | |
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09-16-2009, 12:23 PM | #54 |
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Datalog a mid 11s run and post time slip & logs about boost, speed and throttle dbw & actual. Adding video of the run would be a plus.
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09-16-2009, 01:28 PM | #61 |
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Awesome, I'm running out the door with the vise grips now - OLD SCHOOL STYLE
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