BMW 335d Gearbox issue

bazz780 · 12-20-2011, 07:11 AM

Hey guys.

A current issue i am experiencing with my 335d MY06

The car drives much better since the remap, but still a bit hesitant from start off and can feels the thump occasionally from the gear changes up or down.

I have booked the car in for a gearbox software upgrade on my car which after reading up can possibly cure the problem,

I will send car in to dealer in January 2012 and will report back once the upgrade has been carried out.

In the meantime please share your experiences or thoughts

regards

IceMan007 · 12-20-2011, 08:17 AM

I sometimes experience the same in my MY06 335d and have been advised to have the software updated as you are having.

My car is also mapped and have been told that updating the software will overwrite the remap, so be careful!

bazz780 · 12-20-2011, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by IceMan007

I sometimes experience the same in my MY06 335d and have been advised to have the software updated as you are having.

My car is also mapped and have been told that updating the software will overwrite the remap, so be careful!

That is correct iceman, i confirmed today with the dealer and the map will get wiped off, luckily i have had the car mapped at evolve, who like any other reputable mapper will re-do the map FOC on site (already confirmed with evolve) after repairs or warranty bookings etc.

Out of interest, how much have you been quoted for the upgrade?

briers · 12-20-2011, 09:38 AM

keep us posted on the results

dmt335d · 12-20-2011, 02:19 PM

Bazz780,
Are BMW doing the software update under warranty? Mine an 06 too although I'm not experiencing any problems.

shane55 · 12-20-2011, 04:30 PM

This is interesting...

http://www.thelurch.com/lurching_zf_transmission.htm

Dave_3 · 12-20-2011, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by shane55

This is interesting...

http://www.thelurch.com/lurching_zf_transmission.htm

I wrote that. After getting fed up with my Jaguar.

The box on my 06 335D is in a different league.

D.

IceMan007 · 12-21-2011, 04:37 AM

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Originally Posted by bazz780

Out of interest, how much have you been quoted for the upgrade?

They didn't quote me as I didn't ask them to....come to think of it, they didn't offer to do the upgrade after even telling me that a software update would fix the issue!...

AlwynMike · 12-21-2011, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by IceMan007

They didn't quote me as I didn't ask them to....come to think of it, they didn't offer to do the upgrade after even telling me that a software update would fix the issue!...

I can feel the pain coming on . . . . . .

bazz780 · 12-21-2011, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by dmt335d

Bazz780,
Are BMW doing the software update under warranty? Mine an 06 too although I'm not experiencing any problems.

Not under warranty but a negotiated rate, normally approx 250 + vat

YvesD · 12-22-2011, 10:27 AM

I would try resetting the adaptions 1st. Its probably locked onto the old settings and is just confused.

Much cheaper to purchase a BT Tool and do it all yourself.

Yves

Quote:

Originally Posted by bazz780

Not under warranty but a negotiated rate, normally approx 250 + vat

bazz780 · 12-23-2011, 08:11 AM

can this be done with inpa software?

bazz780 · 12-23-2011, 10:37 AM

actually reading up about peoples experience with inpa and throttle adaptation, i dont think its a good idea

bazz780 · 12-23-2011, 11:08 AM

update:: will still give it a try in the evening

YvesD · 12-23-2011, 11:13 AM

Whats that?

Quote:

Originally Posted by bazz780

can this be done with inpa software?

bazz780 · 12-23-2011, 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YvesD

Whats that?

its diagnostic software

inpa/ediabas to diagnose/clear fault codes etc but is in german language lol

bazz780 · 12-24-2011, 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YvesD

I would try resetting the adaptions 1st. Its probably locked onto the old settings and is just confused.

Much cheaper to purchase a BT Tool and do it all yourself.

Yves

Mate!!

i did the adaptation reset and BLIMEY!!!

The car is totally transformed!

During the adaptation reset you feel as though nothing is happening

i then switched ignition off, took key out and then back in and did half ignition then started the engine (i believe this reduces chances of warning lights on dash coming on as it lets the car learn parameters again)

Not convinced that anything happened, i casually drove off from my parking spot and upon tapping the accelerator immediately i noticed a difference!

the car now has even more sensitive throttle response, changed gears much smoother and pulls unbelievably - it just feels soo much more free flowing!

Best part is my local mpg has climbed from approx 24mpg to 32mpg - dont know how and why but im not complaining

I will now see how it goes until jan and may need to cancel the ££ appointment with bmw and save myself a bundle.

Thanks to Yvesd

I cant believe it!

YvesD · 12-26-2011, 05:49 AM

Pleased to have been of service!

Now, if you really want some fun, do it again and this time, perform the full BMW adaption procedure.

See attached!!

Yves

Quote:

Originally Posted by bazz780

Mate!!

i did the adaptation reset and BLIMEY!!!

The car is totally transformed!

During the adaptation reset you feel as though nothing is happening

i then switched ignition off, took key out and then back in and did half ignition then started the engine (i believe this reduces chances of warning lights on dash coming on as it lets the car learn parameters again)

Not convinced that anything happened, i casually drove off from my parking spot and upon tapping the accelerator immediately i noticed a difference!

the car now has even more sensitive throttle response, changed gears much smoother and pulls unbelievably - it just feels soo much more free flowing!

Best part is my local mpg has climbed from approx 24mpg to 32mpg - dont know how and why but im not complaining

I will now see how it goes until jan and may need to cancel the ££ appointment with bmw and save myself a bundle.

Thanks to Yvesd

I cant believe it!

TMP · 12-26-2011, 06:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YvesD

Pleased to have been of service!

Now, if you really want some fun, do it again and this time, perform the full BMW adaption procedure.

See attached!!

Yves

Is this for real...how on earth do you know if this has worked and you havent made a mistake in the process???

bazz780 · 12-26-2011, 06:58 AM

What will be the outcome of this?

Is this what bmw do when they say gearbox software update? Or is that completely different and useless?

YvesD · 12-26-2011, 07:22 AM

Hi,

This isnt a 'software update' but it is PUMA gearbox relearning procedure after adaptions have been re-set.

I suspect BMW rarely do it as its almost impossible in the day time due to traffic.

It does work however. I have done it a couple of times late at night on a quiet stretch of local country road. Not that hard if you concentrate but does take best part of an hour.

You can feel the gearbox getting smoother the further into the adaption procedure you get.

Try it

Yves

TMP · 12-26-2011, 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YvesD

Hi,

This isnt a 'software update' but it is PUMA gearbox relearning procedure after adaptions have been re-set.

I suspect BMW rarely do it as its almost impossible in the day time due to traffic.

It does work however. I have done it a couple of times late at night on a quiet stretch of local country road. Not that hard if you concentrate but does take best part of an hour.

You can feel the gearbox getting smoother the further into the adaption procedure you get.

Try it

Yves

ahaha, so you have to do this after a gearbox adaption reset then..
(i bet it would take almost an hour to do it!)

I had mine reset after a jerky change 3 months into having the car....touch wood its still fine in full auto mode!

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bazz780 Captain 70 Rep 810 Posts Drives: E92 330d m sport Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: london iTrader: (0)	BMW 335d Gearbox issue Hey guys. A current issue i am experiencing with my 335d MY06 The car drives much better since the remap, but still a bit hesitant from start off and can feels the thump occasionally from the gear changes up or down. I have booked the car in for a gearbox software upgrade on my car which after reading up can possibly cure the problem, I will send car in to dealer in January 2012 and will report back once the upgrade has been carried out. In the meantime please share your experiences or thoughts regards
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YvesD Lamininist 82 Rep 1,030 Posts Drives: Carbon Black X5M Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: United Kingdom iTrader: (3)	Hi, This isnt a 'software update' but it is PUMA gearbox relearning procedure after adaptions have been re-set. I suspect BMW rarely do it as its almost impossible in the day time due to traffic. It does work however. I have done it a couple of times late at night on a quiet stretch of local country road. Not that hard if you concentrate but does take best part of an hour. You can feel the gearbox getting smoother the further into the adaption procedure you get. Try it Yves
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